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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, tj@kernel.org,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: Use WQ_HIGHPRI for mm_percpu_wq.
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 14:10:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170828121055.GI17097@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1503921210-4603-1-git-send-email-penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>

On Mon 28-08-17 20:53:30, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> I noticed that drain_local_pages_wq work stuck for minutes despite it is
> on WQ_MEM_RECLAIM mm_percpu_wq workqueue. Tejun Heo pointed out [1]:
> 
>   Rescuer helps if the worker pool that the workqueue is associated with
>   hangs. If we have other work items actively running, e.g., for reclaim
>   on the pool, the pool isn't stalled and rescuers won't be woken up. If
>   the work items need preferential execution, it should use WQ_HIGHPRI.
> 
> Since work items on mm_percpu_wq workqueue are expected to be executed
> as soon as possible, let's use WQ_HIGHPRI. Note that even with WQ_HIGHPRI,
> up to a few seconds of delay seems to be unavoidable.

I am not sure I understand how WQ_HIGHPRI actually helps. The work item
will get served by a thread with higher priority and from a different
pool than regular WQs. But what prevents the same issue as described
above when the highprio pool gets congested? In other words what make
WQ_HIGHPRI less prone to long stalls when we are under low memory
situation and new workers cannot be allocated?

> If we do want to make
> sure that work items on mm_percpu_wq workqueue are executed without delays,
> we need to consider using kthread_workers instead of workqueue. (Or, maybe
> somehow we can share one kthread with constantly manipulating cpumask?)

Hmm, that doesn't sound like a bad idea to me. We already have a rescuer
thread that basically sits idle all the time so having a dedicated
kernel thread will not be more expensive wrt. resources. So I think this
is a more reasonable approach than playing with WQ_HIGHPRI which smells
like a quite obscure workaround than a real fix to me.

> [1] http://lkml.kernel.org/r/201707111951.IHA98084.OHQtVOFJMLOSFF@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp
> 
> Signed-off-by: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
> Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
> Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
> ---
>  mm/vmstat.c | 3 ++-
>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/mm/vmstat.c b/mm/vmstat.c
> index 4bb13e7..cb7e198 100644
> --- a/mm/vmstat.c
> +++ b/mm/vmstat.c
> @@ -1923,7 +1923,8 @@ void __init init_mm_internals(void)
>  {
>  	int ret __maybe_unused;
>  
> -	mm_percpu_wq = alloc_workqueue("mm_percpu_wq", WQ_MEM_RECLAIM, 0);
> +	mm_percpu_wq = alloc_workqueue("mm_percpu_wq",
> +				       WQ_MEM_RECLAIM | WQ_HIGHPRI, 0);
>  
>  #ifdef CONFIG_SMP
>  	ret = cpuhp_setup_state_nocalls(CPUHP_MM_VMSTAT_DEAD, "mm/vmstat:dead",
> -- 
> 1.8.3.1
> 

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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       reply	other threads:[~2017-08-28 12:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1503921210-4603-1-git-send-email-penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
2017-08-28 12:10 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2017-08-28 17:06   ` Tejun Heo
2017-08-28 22:15     ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-08-28 23:02       ` Tejun Heo
2017-08-28 23:09         ` Tejun Heo
2017-08-29 11:14           ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-08-29 14:38             ` Tejun Heo
2017-08-29 21:41               ` Tejun Heo
2017-08-30 13:51                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-08-31  1:46                   ` Tejun Heo
2017-08-31 14:52                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-08-31 15:25                       ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-31 22:07                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-09-01 13:47                           ` Tejun Heo
2017-09-01 14:29                             ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-08-29 13:33     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-29 14:33       ` Tejun Heo
2017-08-29 20:29         ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-08-30  6:40           ` Michal Hocko

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