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From: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
To: mhocko@kernel.org
Cc: pmoore@redhat.com, jeffv@google.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, selinux@tycho.nsa.gov,
	mgorman@suse.de
Subject: Re: suspicious __GFP_NOMEMALLOC in selinux
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 19:44:46 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201708031944.JCB39029.SJOOOLHFQFMVFt@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170803103337.GH12521@dhcp22.suse.cz>

Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Thu 03-08-17 19:02:57, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> > On 2017/08/03 17:11, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > [CC Mel]
> > > 
> > > On Wed 02-08-17 17:45:56, Paul Moore wrote:
> > >> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 6:50 AM, Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>> while doing something completely unrelated to selinux I've noticed a
> > >>> really strange __GFP_NOMEMALLOC usage pattern in selinux, especially
> > >>> GFP_ATOMIC | __GFP_NOMEMALLOC doesn't make much sense to me. GFP_ATOMIC
> > >>> on its own allows to access memory reserves while the later flag tells
> > >>> we cannot use memory reserves at all. The primary usecase for
> > >>> __GFP_NOMEMALLOC is to override a global PF_MEMALLOC should there be a
> > >>> need.
> > >>>
> > >>> It all leads to fa1aa143ac4a ("selinux: extended permissions for
> > >>> ioctls") which doesn't explain this aspect so let me ask. Why is the
> > >>> flag used at all? Moreover shouldn't GFP_ATOMIC be actually GFP_NOWAIT.
> > >>> What makes this path important to access memory reserves?
> > >>
> > >> [NOTE: added the SELinux list to the CC line, please include that list
> > >> when asking SELinux questions]
> > > 
> > > Sorry about that. Will keep it in mind for next posts
> > >  
> > >> The GFP_ATOMIC|__GFP_NOMEMALLOC use in SELinux appears to be limited
> > >> to security/selinux/avc.c, and digging a bit, I'm guessing commit
> > >> fa1aa143ac4a copied the combination from 6290c2c43973 ("selinux: tag
> > >> avc cache alloc as non-critical") and the avc_alloc_node() function.
> > > 
> > > Thanks for the pointer. That makes much more sense now. Back in 2012 we
> > > really didn't have a good way to distinguish non sleeping and atomic
> > > with reserves allocations.
> > >  
> > >> I can't say that I'm an expert at the vm subsystem and the variety of
> > >> different GFP_* flags, but your suggestion of moving to GFP_NOWAIT in
> > >> security/selinux/avc.c seems reasonable and in keeping with the idea
> > >> behind commit 6290c2c43973.
> > > 
> > > What do you think about the following? I haven't tested it but it should
> > > be rather straightforward.
> > 
> > Why not at least __GFP_NOWARN ?
> 
> This would require an additional justification.

If allocation failure is not a problem, printing allocation failure messages
is nothing but noisy.

> 
> > And why not also __GFP_NOMEMALLOC ?
> 
> What would be the purpose of __GFP_NOMEMALLOC? In other words which
> context would set PF_NOMEMALLOC so that the flag would override it?
> 

When allocating thread is selected as an OOM victim, it gets TIF_MEMDIE.
Since that function might be called from !in_interrupt() context, it is
possible that gfp_pfmemalloc_allowed() returns true due to TIF_MEMDIE and
the OOM victim will dip into memory reserves even when allocation failure
is not a problem.

Thus, I think that majority of plain GFP_NOWAIT users want to use
GFP_NOWAIT | __GFP_NOWARN | __GFP_NOMEMALLOC.

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-03 10:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-02 10:50 Michal Hocko
2017-08-02 21:45 ` Paul Moore
2017-08-03  8:11   ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-03  8:56     ` Mel Gorman
2017-08-03 10:02     ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-08-03 10:33       ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-03 10:44         ` Tetsuo Handa [this message]
2017-08-03 11:05           ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-03 18:17             ` Paul Moore
2017-08-04  7:56               ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-04 17:12                 ` Paul Moore
2017-08-07  6:58                   ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-08 13:34                     ` Paul Moore
2017-08-10  7:02                       ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-10 13:49                         ` Paul Moore

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