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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com>,
	"kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com"
	<kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
	David Windsor <dave@nullcore.net>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 22/23] usercopy: split user-controlled slabs to separate caches
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 10:54:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170628085408.GB5225@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5jK5L8ZhMAHEMBDWhnDMDS-Wt-aNMUbOMrMHT25qWqNoRA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue 27-06-17 15:07:17, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 12:31 AM, Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
> > But I am not really sure I understand consequences of this patch. So how
> > do those attacks look like. Do you have an example of a CVE which would
> > be prevented by this measure?
> 
> It's a regular practice, especially for heap grooming. You can see an
> example here:
> http://cyseclabs.com/blog/cve-2016-6187-heap-off-by-one-exploit
> which even recognizes this as a common method, saying "the standard
> msgget() technique". Having the separate caches doesn't strictly
> _stop_ some attacks, but it changes the nature of what the attacker
> has to do. Instead of having a universal way to groom the heap, they
> must be forced into other paths. Generally speaking this can reduce
> what's possible making the attack either impossible, more expensive to
> develop, or less reliable.

Thanks that makes it more clear to me. I believe this would be a useful
information in the changelog.

> >> This would mean building out *_user() versions for all the various
> >> *alloc() functions, though. That gets kind of long/ugly.
> >
> > Only prepare those which are really needed. It seems only handful of
> > them in your patch.
> 
> Okay, if that's the desired approach, we can do that.

yes please
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-28  8:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-19 23:36 [PATCH 00/23] Hardened usercopy whitelisting Kees Cook
2017-06-19 23:36 ` [PATCH 01/23] usercopy: Prepare for " Kees Cook
2017-06-19 23:36 ` [PATCH 02/23] usercopy: Enforce slab cache usercopy region boundaries Kees Cook
2017-06-19 23:36 ` [PATCH 03/23] vfs: define usercopy region in names_cache slab caches Kees Cook
2017-06-19 23:36 ` [PATCH 04/23] vfs: copy struct mount.mnt_id to userspace using put_user() Kees Cook
2017-06-19 23:36 ` [PATCH 05/23] befs: define usercopy region in befs_inode_cache slab cache Kees Cook
2017-06-19 23:36 ` [PATCH 06/23] cifs: define usercopy region in cifs_request " Kees Cook
2017-06-19 23:36 ` [PATCH 07/23] exofs: define usercopy region in exofs_inode_cache " Kees Cook
2017-06-19 23:36 ` [PATCH 08/23] ext2: define usercopy region in ext2_inode_cache " Kees Cook
2017-06-19 23:36 ` [PATCH 09/23] ext4: define usercopy region in ext4_inode_cache " Kees Cook
2017-06-19 23:36 ` [PATCH 10/23] vxfs: define usercopy region in vxfs_inode " Kees Cook
2017-06-19 23:36 ` [PATCH 11/23] jfs: define usercopy region in jfs_ip " Kees Cook
2017-06-19 23:36 ` [PATCH 12/23] orangefs: define usercopy region in orangefs_inode_cache " Kees Cook
2017-06-19 23:36 ` [PATCH 13/23] ufs: define usercopy region in ufs_inode_cache " Kees Cook
2017-06-19 23:36 ` [PATCH 14/23] fork: define usercopy region in thread_stack, task_struct, mm_struct slab caches Kees Cook
2017-06-19 23:36 ` [PATCH 15/23] net: define usercopy region in struct proto slab cache Kees Cook
2017-06-19 23:36 ` [PATCH 16/23] net: copy struct sctp_sock.autoclose to userspace using put_user() Kees Cook
2017-06-19 23:36 ` [PATCH 17/23] dcache: define usercopy region in dentry_cache slab cache Kees Cook
2017-06-20  4:08   ` [kernel-hardening] " Eric Biggers
2017-06-28 16:44     ` Kees Cook
2017-06-28 16:55       ` Eric Biggers
2017-06-19 23:36 ` [PATCH 18/23] scsi: define usercopy region in scsi_sense_cache " Kees Cook
2017-06-19 23:36 ` [PATCH 19/23] xfs: define usercopy region in xfs_inode " Kees Cook
2017-06-19 23:36 ` [PATCH 20/23] usercopy: convert kmalloc caches to usercopy caches Kees Cook
2017-06-19 23:36 ` [PATCH 21/23] usercopy: Restrict non-usercopy caches to size 0 Kees Cook
2017-06-20  4:04   ` [kernel-hardening] " Eric Biggers
2017-06-28 17:03     ` Kees Cook
2017-06-19 23:36 ` [PATCH 22/23] usercopy: split user-controlled slabs to separate caches Kees Cook
2017-06-20  4:24   ` [kernel-hardening] " Eric Biggers
2017-06-20  4:47   ` Eric Biggers
2017-06-20 22:27     ` Kees Cook
2017-06-20 20:24   ` Laura Abbott
2017-06-20 22:22     ` Kees Cook
2017-06-27  7:31       ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-27 22:07         ` Kees Cook
2017-06-28  8:54           ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2017-06-19 23:36 ` [PATCH 23/23] mm: Allow slab_nomerge to be set at build time Kees Cook
2017-06-20  4:09   ` [kernel-hardening] " Daniel Micay
2017-06-20 22:51     ` Kees Cook
2017-06-20  4:29   ` Eric Biggers
2017-06-20 23:09     ` Kees Cook
2017-06-20 19:41 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 00/23] Hardened usercopy whitelisting Rik van Riel
2017-10-20 22:40 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-10-20 23:25   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-10-21  3:04     ` Kees Cook

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