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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
Cc: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm,oom_kill: Close race window of needlessly selecting new victims.
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 14:45:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170623124550.GX5308@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201706220053.v5M0rmOU078764@www262.sakura.ne.jp>

On Thu 22-06-17 09:53:48, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> David Rientjes wrote:
> > On Wed, 21 Jun 2017, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> > > Umm... So, you are pointing out that select_bad_process() aborts based on
> > > TIF_MEMDIE or MMF_OOM_SKIP is broken because victim threads can be removed
> > >  from global task list or cgroup's task list. Then, the OOM killer will have to
> > > wait until all mm_struct of interested OOM domain (system wide or some cgroup)
> > > is reaped by the OOM reaper. Simplest way is to wait until all mm_struct are
> > > reaped by the OOM reaper, for currently we are not tracking which memory cgroup
> > > each mm_struct belongs to, are we? But that can cause needless delay when
> > > multiple OOM events occurred in different OOM domains. Do we want to (and can we)
> > > make it possible to tell whether each mm_struct queued to the OOM reaper's list
> > > belongs to the thread calling out_of_memory() ?
> > > 
> > 
> > I am saying that taking mmget() in mark_oom_victim() and then only 
> > dropping it with mmput_async() after it can grab mm->mmap_sem, which the 
> > exit path itself takes, or the oom reaper happens to schedule, causes 
> > __mmput() to be called much later and thus we remove the process from the 
> > tasklist or call cgroup_exit() earlier than the memory can be unmapped 
> > with your patch.  As a result, subsequent calls to the oom killer kills 
> > everything before the original victim's mm can undergo __mmput() because 
> > the oom reaper still holds the reference.
> 
> Here is "wait for all mm_struct are reaped by the OOM reaper" version.

Well, this is getting more and more hairy. I think we should explore the
possibility of oom_reaper vs. exit_mmap working together after all.

Yes, I've said that a solution fully withing the oom proper would be
preferable but this just grows into complex hairy mess. Maybe we just
find out that oom_reaper vs. exit_mmap is just not feasible and we will
reconsider this approach in the end but let's try a clean solution
first. As I've said there is nothing fundamentally hard about parallel
unmapping MADV_DONTNEED does that already. We just have to iron out
those tiny details.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-23 12:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-14 23:43 [patch] mm, oom: prevent additional oom kills before memory is freed David Rientjes
2017-06-15 10:39 ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-15 10:53   ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-15 11:01     ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-15 11:32       ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-15 12:03         ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-15 12:13           ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-15 13:01             ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-15 13:22               ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-15 21:43                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-15 21:37               ` David Rientjes
2017-06-15 12:20       ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-15 21:26   ` David Rientjes
2017-06-15 21:41     ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-15 22:03       ` David Rientjes
2017-06-15 22:12         ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-15 22:42           ` David Rientjes
2017-06-16  8:06             ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-16  0:54           ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-16  4:00             ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-16  8:39             ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-16 10:27               ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-16 11:02                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-16 14:26                   ` Re: [patch] mm, oom: prevent additional oom kills before memoryis freed Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-16 14:42                     ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-17 13:30                       ` Re: [patch] mm, oom: prevent additional oom kills before memory is freed Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-23 12:38                         ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-16 12:22       ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-16 14:12         ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-17  5:17           ` [PATCH] mm,oom_kill: Close race window of needlessly selecting new victims Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-20 22:12             ` David Rientjes
2017-06-21  2:17               ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-21 20:31                 ` David Rientjes
2017-06-22  0:53                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-23 12:45                     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2017-06-21 13:18               ` Michal Hocko

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