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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] virtio-mem: paravirtualized memory
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 11:08:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170619100813.GB17304@stefanha-x1.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <547865a9-d6c2-7140-47e2-5af01e7d761d@redhat.com>

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On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 04:20:02PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> Important restrictions of this concept:
> - Guests without a virtio-mem guest driver can't see that memory.
> - We will always require some boot memory that cannot get unplugged.
>   Also, virtio-mem memory (as all other hotplugged memory) cannot become
>   DMA memory under Linux. So the boot memory also defines the amount of
>   DMA memory.

I didn't know that hotplug memory cannot become DMA memory.

Ouch.  Zero-copy disk I/O with O_DIRECT and network I/O with virtio-net
won't be possible.

When running an application that uses O_DIRECT file I/O this probably
means we now have 2 copies of pages in memory: 1. in the application and
2. in the kernel page cache.

So this increases pressure on the page cache and reduces performance :(.

Stefan

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-06-19 10:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-16 14:20 David Hildenbrand
2017-06-16 15:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-06-16 15:59   ` David Hildenbrand
2017-06-16 20:19     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-06-18 10:17       ` David Hildenbrand
2017-06-19 10:08 ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2017-06-19 10:26   ` David Hildenbrand
2017-06-21 11:08     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-06-21 12:32       ` David Hildenbrand
2017-06-23 12:45         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-07-25  8:21 ` David Hildenbrand
2017-07-28 11:09 ` David Hildenbrand
2017-07-28 15:16   ` Dan Williams
2017-07-28 15:48     ` David Hildenbrand
2017-07-31 14:12       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-31 15:04         ` David Hildenbrand

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