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From: Joonsoo Kim <js1304@gmail.com>
To: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
Cc: Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
	kasan-dev <kasan-dev@googlegroups.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	kernel-team@lge.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 00/11] mm/kasan: support per-page shadow memory to reduce memory consumption
Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 09:46:40 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170525004638.GB21336@js1304-desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACT4Y+b56nGv6WcTqysa=Xxdksxr-c9-tCzBxEY8PzfVYAUbrA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 06:31:04PM +0200, Dmitry Vyukov wrote:
> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 8:04 AM, Joonsoo Kim <js1304@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > From: Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hello, all.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > This is an attempt to recude memory consumption of KASAN. Please see
> >> >> > following description to get the more information.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 1. What is per-page shadow memory
> >> >> >
> >> >> > This patch introduces infrastructure to support per-page shadow memory.
> >> >> > Per-page shadow memory is the same with original shadow memory except
> >> >> > the granualarity. It's one byte shows the shadow value for the page.
> >> >> > The purpose of introducing this new shadow memory is to save memory
> >> >> > consumption.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 2. Problem of current approach
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Until now, KASAN needs shadow memory for all the range of the memory
> >> >> > so the amount of statically allocated memory is so large. It causes
> >> >> > the problem that KASAN cannot run on the system with hard memory
> >> >> > constraint. Even if KASAN can run, large memory consumption due to
> >> >> > KASAN changes behaviour of the workload so we cannot validate
> >> >> > the moment that we want to check.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 3. How does this patch fix the problem
> >> >> >
> >> >> > This patch tries to fix the problem by reducing memory consumption for
> >> >> > the shadow memory. There are two observations.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I think that the best way to deal with your problem is to increase shadow scale size.
> >> >>
> >> >> You'll need to add tunable to gcc to control shadow size. I expect that gcc has some
> >> >> places where 8-shadow scale size is hardcoded, but it should be fixable.
> >> >>
> >> >> The kernel also have some small amount of code written with KASAN_SHADOW_SCALE_SIZE == 8 in mind,
> >> >> which should be easy to fix.
> >> >>
> >> >> Note that bigger shadow scale size requires bigger alignment of allocated memory and variables.
> >> >> However, according to comments in gcc/asan.c gcc already aligns stack and global variables and at
> >> >> 32-bytes boundary.
> >> >> So we could bump shadow scale up to 32 without increasing current stack consumption.
> >> >>
> >> >> On a small machine (1Gb) 1/32 of shadow is just 32Mb which is comparable to yours 30Mb, but I expect it to be
> >> >> much faster. More importantly, this will require only small amount of simple changes in code, which will be
> >> >> a *lot* more easier to maintain.
> >>
> >>
> >> Interesting option. We never considered increasing scale in user space
> >> due to performance implications. But the algorithm always supported up
> >> to 128x scale. Definitely worth considering as an option.
> >
> > Could you explain me how does increasing scale reduce performance? I
> > tried to guess the reason but failed.
> 
> 
> The main reason is inline instrumentation. Inline instrumentation for
> a check of 8-byte access (which are very common in 64-bit code) is
> just a check of the shadow byte for 0. For smaller accesses we have
> more complex instrumentation that first checks shadow for 0 and then
> does precise check based on size/offset of the access + shadow value.
> That's slower and also increases register pressure and code size
> (which can further reduce performance due to icache overflow). If we
> increase scale to 16/32, all accesses will need that slow path.
> Another thing is stack instrumentation: larger scale will require
> larger redzones to ensure proper alignment. That will increase stack
> frames and also more instructions to poison/unpoison stack shadow on
> function entry/exit.

Now, I see. Thanks for explanation.

Thanks.

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-25  0:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-16  1:16 js1304
2017-05-16  1:16 ` [PATCH v1 01/11] mm/kasan: rename XXX_is_zero to XXX_is_nonzero js1304
2017-05-16  1:16 ` [PATCH v1 02/11] mm/kasan: don't fetch the next shadow value speculartively js1304
2017-05-16  1:16 ` [PATCH v1 03/11] mm/kasan: handle unaligned end address in zero_pte_populate js1304
2017-05-16  1:16 ` [PATCH v1 04/11] mm/kasan: extend kasan_populate_zero_shadow() js1304
2017-05-16  1:16 ` [PATCH v1 05/11] mm/kasan: introduce per-page shadow memory infrastructure js1304
2017-05-16  1:16 ` [PATCH v1 06/11] mm/kasan: mark/unmark the target range that is for original shadow memory js1304
2017-05-16  1:16 ` [PATCH v1 07/11] x86/kasan: use per-page " js1304
2017-05-16  1:16 ` [PATCH v1 08/11] mm/kasan: support on-demand shadow allocation/mapping js1304
2017-05-16  1:16 ` [PATCH v1 09/11] x86/kasan: support on-demand shadow mapping js1304
2017-05-16  1:16 ` [PATCH v1 10/11] mm/kasan: support dynamic shadow memory free js1304
2017-05-16  1:16 ` [PATCH v1 11/11] mm/kasan: change the order of shadow memory check js1304
2017-05-16  1:28 ` [PATCH(RE-RESEND) v1 01/11] mm/kasan: rename _is_zero to _is_nonzero Joonsoo Kim
2017-05-16  4:34 ` [PATCH v1 00/11] mm/kasan: support per-page shadow memory to reduce memory consumption Dmitry Vyukov
2017-05-16  4:47   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-05-16  6:23   ` Joonsoo Kim
2017-05-16 20:49     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-05-17  7:23       ` Joonsoo Kim
2017-05-17  7:25         ` Joonsoo Kim
2017-05-24  6:57       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-05-24  7:45         ` Joonsoo Kim
2017-05-24 17:19           ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-05-25  0:41             ` Joonsoo Kim
2017-05-29 15:07               ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-05-29 15:12                 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-05-29 15:29                   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-05-30  7:58                     ` Vladimir Murzin
2017-05-30  8:15                       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-05-30  8:31                         ` Vladimir Murzin
2017-05-30  8:40                           ` Vladimir Murzin
2017-05-30  8:49                             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-05-30  9:08                               ` Vladimir Murzin
2017-05-30  9:26                                 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-05-30  9:39                                   ` Vladimir Murzin
2017-05-30  9:45                                     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-05-30  9:54                                       ` Vladimir Murzin
2017-05-30 14:16                     ` Andrey Ryabinin
2017-05-31  5:50                       ` Joonsoo Kim
2017-05-31 16:31                         ` Andrey Ryabinin
2017-06-08  2:43                           ` Joonsoo Kim
2017-06-01 15:16                       ` 王靖天
2017-06-01 18:06                       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-06-08  2:40                         ` Joonsoo Kim
2017-06-13 16:49                           ` Andrey Ryabinin
2017-06-14  0:12                             ` Joonsoo Kim
2017-05-17 12:17 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2017-05-19  1:53   ` Joonsoo Kim
2017-05-22  6:02     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-05-24  6:04       ` Joonsoo Kim
2017-05-24 16:31         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-05-25  0:46           ` Joonsoo Kim [this message]
2017-05-22 14:00     ` Andrey Ryabinin
2017-05-24  6:18       ` Joonsoo Kim

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