From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
To: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>
Cc: Pankaj Gupta <pagupta@redhat.com>,
Tariq Toukan <ttoukan.linux@gmail.com>,
Tariq Toukan <tariqt@mellanox.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@mellanox.com>
Subject: Re: Page allocator order-0 optimizations merged
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 13:28:16 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170327122816.dvnfxkyqxasfiknj@techsingularity.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170327105514.1ed5b1ba@redhat.com>
On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 10:55:14AM +0200, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 03:32:47 -0400 (EDT)
> Pankaj Gupta <pagupta@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > It looks like a race with softirq and normal process context.
> >
> > Just thinking if we really want allocations from 'softirqs' to be
> > done using per cpu list?
>
> Yes, softirq need fast page allocs. The softirq use-case is refilling
> the DMA RX rings, which is time critical, especially for NIC drivers.
> For this reason most drivers implement different page recycling tricks.
>
> > Or we can have some check in 'free_hot_cold_page' for softirqs
> > to check if we are on a path of returning from hard interrupt don't
> > allocate from per cpu list.
>
> A possible solution, would be use the local_bh_{disable,enable} instead
> of the {preempt_disable,enable} calls. But it is slower, using numbers
> from [1] (19 vs 11 cycles), thus the expected cycles saving is 38-19=19.
>
> The problematic part of using local_bh_enable is that this adds a
> softirq/bottom-halves rescheduling point (as it checks for pending
> BHs). Thus, this might affects real workloads.
>
>
> I'm unsure what the best option is. I'm leaning towards partly
> reverting[1] and go back to doing the slower local_irq_save +
> local_irq_restore as before.
>
> Afterwards we can add a bulk page alloc+free call, that can amortize
> this 38 cycles cost (of local_irq_{save,restore}). Or add a function
> call that MUST only be called from contexts with IRQs enabled, which
> allow using the unconditionally local_irq_{disable,enable} as it only
> costs 7 cycles.
>
It's possible to have a separate list for hard/soft IRQ that are protected
although great care is needed to drain properly. I have a partial prototype
lying around marked as "interesting if we ever need it" but it needs more
work. It's sufficiently complex that I couldn't rush it as a fix with the
time I currently have available. For 4.11, it's safer to revert and try
again later bearing in mind that softirqs are in the critical allocation
path for some drivers.
I'll prepare a patch.
--
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs
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Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <58b48b1f.F/jo2/WiSxvvGm/z%akpm@linux-foundation.org>
2017-03-01 13:48 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-03-01 17:36 ` Tariq Toukan
2017-03-22 17:39 ` Tariq Toukan
2017-03-22 23:40 ` Mel Gorman
2017-03-23 13:43 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-03-23 14:51 ` Mel Gorman
2017-03-26 8:21 ` Tariq Toukan
2017-03-26 10:17 ` Tariq Toukan
2017-03-27 7:32 ` Pankaj Gupta
2017-03-27 8:55 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-03-27 12:28 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2017-03-27 12:39 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-03-27 13:32 ` Mel Gorman
2017-03-28 7:32 ` Tariq Toukan
2017-03-28 8:29 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-03-28 16:05 ` Tariq Toukan
2017-03-28 18:24 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-03-29 7:13 ` Tariq Toukan
2017-03-28 8:28 ` Pankaj Gupta
2017-03-27 14:15 ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-03-27 15:15 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-03-27 16:58 ` in_irq_or_nmi() Matthew Wilcox
2017-03-29 8:12 ` in_irq_or_nmi() Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-29 8:59 ` in_irq_or_nmi() Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-03-29 9:19 ` in_irq_or_nmi() Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-29 18:12 ` in_irq_or_nmi() Matthew Wilcox
2017-03-29 19:11 ` in_irq_or_nmi() Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-03-29 19:44 ` in_irq_or_nmi() and RFC patch Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-03-30 6:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-30 7:12 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-03-30 7:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-30 9:46 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-03-30 13:04 ` Mel Gorman
2017-03-30 15:07 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-04-03 12:05 ` Mel Gorman
2017-04-05 8:53 ` Mel Gorman
2017-04-10 14:31 ` Page allocator order-0 optimizations merged zhong jiang
2017-04-10 15:10 ` Mel Gorman
2017-04-11 1:54 ` zhong jiang
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