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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Gerhard Wiesinger <lists@wiesinger.com>
Cc: lkml@pengaru.com, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Still OOM problems with 4.9er/4.10er kernels
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 18:13:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170317171339.GA23957@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a65e4b73-5c97-d915-c79e-7df0771db823@wiesinger.com>

On Fri 17-03-17 17:37:48, Gerhard Wiesinger wrote:
[...]
> Why does the kernel prefer to swapin/out and not use
> 
> a.) the free memory?

It will use all the free memory up to min watermark which is set up
based on min_free_kbytes.

> b.) the buffer/cache?

the memory reclaim is strongly biased towards page cache and we try to
avoid swapout as much as possible (see get_scan_count).
 
> There is ~100M memory available but kernel swaps all the time ...
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Kernel: 4.9.14-200.fc25.x86_64
> 
> top - 17:33:43 up 28 min,  3 users,  load average: 3.58, 1.67, 0.89
> Tasks: 145 total,   4 running, 141 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
> %Cpu(s): 19.1 us, 56.2 sy,  0.0 ni,  4.3 id, 13.4 wa, 2.0 hi,  0.3 si,  4.7
> st
> KiB Mem :   230076 total,    61508 free,   123472 used,    45096 buff/cache
> 
> procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- -system--
> ------cpu-----
>  r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   so    bi    bo in   cs us sy id wa st
>  3  5 303916  60372    328  43864 27828  200 41420   236 6984 11138 11 47  6 23 14

I am really surprised to see any reclaim at all. 26% of free memory
doesn't sound as if we should do a reclaim at all. Do you have an
unusual configuration of /proc/sys/vm/min_free_kbytes ? Or is there
anything running inside a memory cgroup with a small limit?
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-17 17:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <aa4a3217-f94c-0477-b573-796c84255d1e@wiesinger.com>
     [not found] ` <c4ddfc91-7c84-19ed-b69a-18403e7590f9@wiesinger.com>
2016-12-09  7:06   ` Still OOM problems with 4.9er kernels Gerhard Wiesinger
2016-12-09 13:40     ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-09 15:52       ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2016-12-09 15:58         ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2016-12-09 16:09         ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-09 16:58           ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2016-12-09 17:30             ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-09 18:01               ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2016-12-09 21:42                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-12-10 13:50                   ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2016-12-12  8:24                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-23  2:55         ` Minchan Kim
2017-01-01 17:20           ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2017-01-04  8:40           ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2017-01-04  9:11             ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-26  8:40               ` Still OOM problems with 4.9er/4.10er kernels Gerhard Wiesinger
2017-02-27  8:27                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-28  6:06                   ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2017-02-28  8:14                     ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-27  9:02                 ` Minchan Kim
2017-02-27  9:44                   ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-28  5:17                     ` Minchan Kim
2017-02-28  8:12                       ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-02  7:17                         ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-16  6:38                           ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2017-03-16  8:27                             ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-16  8:47                               ` lkml
2017-03-16  9:08                                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-16  9:23                                   ` lkml
2017-03-16  9:39                                     ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-17 16:37                                       ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2017-03-17 17:13                                         ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2017-03-17 20:08                                           ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2017-03-19  8:17                                             ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2017-03-20  1:54                                               ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-03-19 15:18                                             ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-19 16:02                                               ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2017-03-20  3:05                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2017-03-21  5:59                                                   ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2017-03-21  7:13                                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2017-03-23  7:16                                                       ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2017-03-23  8:38                                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2017-03-23 14:46                                                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-03-26  8:36                                                           ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2016-12-09 16:03       ` Still OOM problems with 4.9er kernels Gerhard Wiesinger

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