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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	mhocko@kernel.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	mgorman@techsingularity.net, david@fromorbit.com,
	apolyakov@beget.ru
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7] mm: Add memory allocation watchdog kernel thread.
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 14:37:51 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170309143751.05bddcbad82672384947de5f@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201703091946.GDC21885.OQFFOtJHSOFVML@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>

On Thu, 9 Mar 2017 19:46:14 +0900 Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp> wrote:

> Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> > This patch adds a watchdog which periodically reports number of memory
> > allocating tasks, dying tasks and OOM victim tasks when some task is
> > spending too long time inside __alloc_pages_slowpath(). This patch also
> > serves as a hook for obtaining additional information using SystemTap
> > (e.g. examine other variables using printk(), capture a crash dump by
> > calling panic()) by triggering a callback only when a stall is detected.
> > Ability to take administrator-controlled actions based on some threshold
> > is a big advantage gained by introducing a state tracking.
> > 
> > Commit 63f53dea0c9866e9 ("mm: warn about allocations which stall for
> > too long") was a great step for reducing possibility of silent hang up
> > problem caused by memory allocation stalls [1]. However, there are
> > reports of long stalls (e.g. [2] is over 30 minutes!) and lockups (e.g.
> > [3] is an "unable to invoke the OOM killer due to !__GFP_FS allocation"
> > lockup problem) where this patch is more useful than that commit, for
> > this patch can report possibly related tasks even if allocating tasks
> > are unexpectedly blocked for so long. Regarding premature OOM killer
> > invocation, tracepoints which can accumulate samples in short interval
> > would be useful. But regarding too late to report allocation stalls,
> > this patch which can capture all tasks (for reporting overall situation)
> > in longer interval and act as a trigger (for accumulating short interval
> > samples) would be useful.
)
> Andrew, do you have any questions on this patch?
> I really need this patch for finding bugs which MM people overlook.

(top-posting repaired - please don't do that)

Undecided.  I can see the need but it is indeed quite a large lump of
code.  Perhaps some additional examples of how this new code was used
to understand and improve real-world kernel problems would be persuasive.

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-09 22:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-28  1:21 Tetsuo Handa
2017-03-09 10:46 ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-03-09 22:37   ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2017-03-10 10:40     ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-10 11:19       ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-03-10 13:49         ` Brian Foster
2017-03-10 15:26         ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-11  1:46           ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-03-13  9:45             ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-13 13:45               ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-03-09 22:35 ` Andrew Morton
2017-03-10 11:12   ` Tetsuo Handa

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