From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/4] xfs: map KM_MAYFAIL to __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 13:54:31 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170308125431.GI11028@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e7f932bf-313a-917d-6304-81528aca5994@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
On Wed 08-03-17 20:23:37, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> On 2017/03/08 0:48, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> >
> > KM_MAYFAIL didn't have any suitable GFP_FOO counterpart until recently
> > so it relied on the default page allocator behavior for the given set
> > of flags. This means that small allocations actually never failed.
> >
> > Now that we have __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL flag which works independently on the
> > allocation request size we can map KM_MAYFAIL to it. The allocator will
> > try as hard as it can to fulfill the request but fails eventually if
> > the progress cannot be made.
> >
> > Cc: Darrick J. Wong <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> > ---
> > fs/xfs/kmem.h | 10 ++++++++++
> > 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/fs/xfs/kmem.h b/fs/xfs/kmem.h
> > index ae08cfd9552a..ac80a4855c83 100644
> > --- a/fs/xfs/kmem.h
> > +++ b/fs/xfs/kmem.h
> > @@ -54,6 +54,16 @@ kmem_flags_convert(xfs_km_flags_t flags)
> > lflags &= ~__GFP_FS;
> > }
> >
> > + /*
> > + * Default page/slab allocator behavior is to retry for ever
> > + * for small allocations. We can override this behavior by using
> > + * __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL which will tell the allocator to retry as long
> > + * as it is feasible but rather fail than retry for ever for all
> > + * request sizes.
> > + */
> > + if (flags & KM_MAYFAIL)
> > + lflags |= __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL;
>
> I don't see advantages of supporting both __GFP_NORETRY and __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL.
> kmem_flags_convert() can always set __GFP_NORETRY because the callers use
> opencoded __GFP_NOFAIL loop (with possible allocation lockup warning) unless
> KM_MAYFAIL is set.
The behavior would be different (e.g. the OOM killer handling).
[...]
> line, which is likely always true); but this is off-topic for this thread.
yes
[...]
> where both __GFP_NORETRY and __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL are checked after
> direct reclaim and compaction failed. __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL optimistically
> retries based on one of should_reclaim_retry() or should_compact_retry()
> or read_mems_allowed_retry() returns true or mutex_trylock(&oom_lock) in
> __alloc_pages_may_oom() returns 0. If !__GFP_FS allocation requests are
> holding oom_lock each other, __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL allocation requests (which
> are likely !__GFP_FS allocation requests due to __GFP_FS allocation requests
> being blocked on direct reclaim) can be blocked for uncontrollable duration
> without making progress. It seems to me that the difference between
> __GFP_NORETRY and __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL is not useful. Rather, the caller can
> set __GFP_NORETRY and retry with any control (e.g. set __GFP_HIGH upon first
> timeout, give up upon second timeout).
You are drown in implementation details here. Try to step back and think
about the high level semantic I would like to achieve - which is
essentially a middle ground between __GFP_NORETRY which doesn't retry
and __GFP_NOFAIL to retry for ever. There are users who could benefit
from such a semantic I believe (the most prominent example is kvmalloc
which has different modes of how hard to try kmalloc before giving up
and falling back to vmalloc)..
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Michal Hocko
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-03-08 12:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-03-07 15:48 [RFC PATCH 0/4 v2] mm: give __GFP_REPEAT a better semantic Michal Hocko
2017-03-07 15:48 ` [PATCH 1/4] s390: get rid of superfluous __GFP_REPEAT Michal Hocko
2017-03-08 8:23 ` Heiko Carstens
2017-03-08 14:11 ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-09 8:27 ` Heiko Carstens
2017-03-07 15:48 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] mm, tree wide: replace __GFP_REPEAT by __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL with more useful semantic Michal Hocko
2017-05-25 1:21 ` NeilBrown
2017-05-31 11:42 ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-03 2:24 ` Wei Yang
2017-06-05 6:43 ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-06 3:04 ` Wei Yang
2017-06-06 12:03 ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-07 2:10 ` Wei Yang
2017-06-09 7:32 ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-07 15:48 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] xfs: map KM_MAYFAIL to __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL Michal Hocko
2017-03-07 17:05 ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-03-08 9:35 ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-08 11:23 ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-03-08 12:54 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2017-03-08 15:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-09 9:16 ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-07 15:48 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] mm: kvmalloc support __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL for all sizes Michal Hocko
2017-05-16 9:10 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4 v2] mm: give __GFP_REPEAT a better semantic Michal Hocko
2017-05-23 8:12 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-05-24 1:06 ` NeilBrown
2017-05-24 7:34 ` Michal Hocko
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