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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, Shaohua Li <shli@fb.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Kernel-team@fb.com, minchan@kernel.org, hughd@google.com,
	riel@redhat.com, mgorman@techsingularity.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH V5 6/6] proc: show MADV_FREE pages info in smaps
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 11:05:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170307100545.GC28642@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170303161027.6fe4ceb0bcd27e1dbed44a5d@linux-foundation.org>

On Fri 03-03-17 16:10:27, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 17:30:54 +0100 Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> > > It's not that I think you're wrong: it *is* an implementation detail.
> > > But we take a bit of incoherency from batching all over the place, so
> > > it's a little odd to take a stand over this particular instance of it
> > > - whether demanding that it'd be fixed, or be documented, which would
> > > only suggest to users that this is special when it really isn't etc.
> > 
> > I am not aware of other counter printed in smaps that would suffer from
> > the same problem, but I haven't checked too deeply so I might be wrong. 
> > 
> > Anyway it seems that I am alone in my position so I will not insist.
> > If we have any bug report then we can still fix it.
> 
> A single lru_add_drain_all() right at the top level (in smaps_show()?)
> won't kill us

I do not think we want to put lru_add_drain_all cost to a random
process reading /proc/<pid>/smaps. If anything the one which does the
madvise should be doing this.

> and should significantly improve this issue.  And it
> might accidentally make some of the other smaps statistics more
> accurate as well.
> 
> If not, can we please have a nice comment somewhere appropriate which
> explains why LazyFree is inaccurate and why we chose to leave it that
> way?

Yeah, I would appreciate the comment more. What about the following
---
diff --git a/Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt b/Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt
index 45853e116eef..0b58b317dc76 100644
--- a/Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt
+++ b/Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt
@@ -444,7 +444,9 @@ a mapping associated with a file may contain anonymous pages: when MAP_PRIVATE
 and a page is modified, the file page is replaced by a private anonymous copy.
 "LazyFree" shows the amount of memory which is marked by madvise(MADV_FREE).
 The memory isn't freed immediately with madvise(). It's freed in memory
-pressure if the memory is clean.
+pressure if the memory is clean. Please note that the printed value might
+be lower than the real value due to optimizations used in the current
+implementation. If this is not desirable please file a bug report.
 "AnonHugePages" shows the ammount of memory backed by transparent hugepage.
 "ShmemPmdMapped" shows the ammount of shared (shmem/tmpfs) memory backed by
 huge pages.

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Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-07 10:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-24 21:31 [PATCH V5 0/6] mm: fix some MADV_FREE issues Shaohua Li
2017-02-24 21:31 ` [PATCH V5 1/6] mm: delete unnecessary TTU_* flags Shaohua Li
2017-02-27 13:48   ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-24 21:31 ` [PATCH V5 2/6] mm: don't assume anonymous pages have SwapBacked flag Shaohua Li
2017-02-27  6:48   ` Hillf Danton
2017-02-27 14:35   ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-27 16:10     ` Shaohua Li
2017-02-27 16:28       ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-24 21:31 ` [PATCH V5 3/6] mm: move MADV_FREE pages into LRU_INACTIVE_FILE list Shaohua Li
2017-02-27  6:28   ` Minchan Kim
2017-02-27 16:13     ` Shaohua Li
2017-02-27 16:30       ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-28  2:53       ` Minchan Kim
2017-02-27 14:53   ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-27 17:15   ` Johannes Weiner
2017-02-28  3:19   ` Hillf Danton
2017-02-24 21:31 ` [PATCH V5 4/6] mm: reclaim MADV_FREE pages Shaohua Li
2017-02-27  6:33   ` Minchan Kim
2017-02-27 16:19     ` Shaohua Li
2017-02-27 16:32       ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-28  5:02       ` Minchan Kim
2017-02-27 15:05   ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-27 17:21   ` Johannes Weiner
2017-02-28  3:21   ` Hillf Danton
2017-02-24 21:31 ` [PATCH V5 5/6] mm: enable MADV_FREE for swapless system Shaohua Li
2017-02-27 15:06   ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-28  3:22   ` Hillf Danton
2017-02-28  5:02   ` Minchan Kim
2017-02-24 21:31 ` [PATCH V5 6/6] proc: show MADV_FREE pages info in smaps Shaohua Li
2017-02-27 15:06   ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-28  3:23   ` Hillf Danton
2017-03-01 13:36   ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-01 17:37     ` Shaohua Li
2017-03-01 17:49       ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-01 18:18         ` Shaohua Li
2017-03-01 18:31     ` Johannes Weiner
2017-03-01 18:57       ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-02  7:39         ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-02 14:01         ` Johannes Weiner
2017-03-02 16:30           ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-04  0:10             ` Andrew Morton
2017-03-07 10:05               ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2017-03-07 22:43                 ` Andrew Morton
2017-03-08  5:36                   ` Minchan Kim

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