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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm, page_alloc: only use per-cpu allocator for irq-safe requests -fix
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 15:12:26 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170208151226.rctwvaqwkgjpbzzn@techsingularity.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1702081550440.3536@nanos>

On Wed, Feb 08, 2017 at 03:56:22PM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Feb 2017, Mel Gorman wrote:
> 
> > preempt_enable_no_resched() was used based on review feedback that had no
> > strong objection at the time. It avoided introducing a preemption point
> > where one didn't exist before which was marginal at best.
> 
> Actually local_irq_enable() _IS_ a preemption point, indirect but still:
> 
>    local_irq_disable()
>    ....
> --> HW interrupt is raised
>    ....
>    local_irq_enable()
> 
>    handle_irq()
> 	set_need_resched()
>    ret_from_irq()
>      preempt()
> 
> while with preempt_disable that looks like this:
> 
>    preempt_disable()
>    ....
> --> HW interrupt is raised
>    handle_irq()
> 	set_need_resched()
>    ret_from_irq()
>    ....
>    preempt_enable()
>       preempt()
> 
> Now if you use preempt_enable_no_resched() then you miss the preemption and
> depending on the actual code path you might run something which takes ages
> without hitting a preemption point after that.
> 

Thanks for the education, I had missed it. The changelog should have been
"fix a dumb mistake and stick to preempt_enable".  Assuming Andrew picks
this patch up, it'll be folded into the patch that introduced the problem
in the first place and will the broken usage will never hit mainline.

> It's not only a problem for RT. It's also in mainline a violation of the
> preemption mechanism.
> 

Understood, thanks.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

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      reply	other threads:[~2017-02-08 15:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-08 14:31 Mel Gorman
2017-02-08 14:56 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-02-08 15:12   ` Mel Gorman [this message]

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