From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch v2] mm, thp: add new defer+madvise defrag option
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 16:16:47 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170111161647.306e511a2478132ac9a3969e@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1701101614330.41805@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 16:15:27 -0800 (PST) David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com> wrote:
> There is no thp defrag option that currently allows MADV_HUGEPAGE regions
> to do direct compaction and reclaim while all other thp allocations simply
> trigger kswapd and kcompactd in the background and fail immediately.
>
> The "defer" setting simply triggers background reclaim and compaction for
> all regions, regardless of MADV_HUGEPAGE, which makes it unusable for our
> userspace where MADV_HUGEPAGE is being used to indicate the application is
> willing to wait for work for thp memory to be available.
>
> The "madvise" setting will do direct compaction and reclaim for these
> MADV_HUGEPAGE regions, but does not trigger kswapd and kcompactd in the
> background for anybody else.
>
> For reasonable usage, there needs to be a mesh between the two options.
> This patch introduces a fifth mode, "defer+madvise", that will do direct
> reclaim and compaction for MADV_HUGEPAGE regions and trigger background
> reclaim and compaction for everybody else so that hugepages may be
> available in the near future.
>
> A proposal to allow direct reclaim and compaction for MADV_HUGEPAGE
> regions as part of the "defer" mode, making it a very powerful setting and
> avoids breaking userspace, was offered:
> http://marc.info/?t=148236612700003. This additional mode is a
> compromise.
>
> A second proposal to allow both "defer" and "madvise" to be selected at
> the same time was also offered: http://marc.info/?t=148357345300001.
> This is possible, but there was a concern that it might break existing
> userspaces the parse the output of the defrag mode, so the fifth option
> was introduced instead.
>
> This patch also cleans up the helper function for storing to "enabled"
> and "defrag" since the former supports three modes while the latter
> supports five and triple_flag_store() was getting unnecessarily messy.
>
> --- a/Documentation/vm/transhuge.txt
> +++ b/Documentation/vm/transhuge.txt
> @@ -110,6 +110,7 @@ MADV_HUGEPAGE region.
>
> echo always >/sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/defrag
> echo defer >/sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/defrag
> +echo defer+madvise >/sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/defrag
> echo madvise >/sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/defrag
> echo never >/sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/defrag
>
> @@ -120,10 +121,15 @@ that benefit heavily from THP use and are willing to delay the VM start
> to utilise them.
>
> "defer" means that an application will wake kswapd in the background
> -to reclaim pages and wake kcompact to compact memory so that THP is
> +to reclaim pages and wake kcompactd to compact memory so that THP is
> available in the near future. It's the responsibility of khugepaged
> to then install the THP pages later.
>
> +"defer+madvise" will enter direct reclaim and compaction like "always", but
> +only for regions that have used madvise(MADV_HUGEPAGE); all other regions
> +will wake kswapd in the background to reclaim pages and wake kcompactd to
> +compact memory so that THP is available in the near future.
> +
It would be helpful if this text were to tell the reader why they may
choose to use this option: runtime effects, advantages, when-to-use,
when-not-to-use, etc.
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prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-01-12 0:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-01-04 23:41 [patch] mm, thp: add new background " David Rientjes
2017-01-05 10:13 ` Mel Gorman
2017-01-05 10:33 ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-05 13:58 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-01-05 15:50 ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-05 22:54 ` David Rientjes
2017-01-06 8:41 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-01-06 14:01 ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-06 22:20 ` David Rientjes
2017-01-09 10:04 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-01-09 12:06 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-01-10 2:19 ` David Rientjes
2017-01-10 3:38 ` Hugh Dickins
2017-01-10 8:44 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-01-10 23:52 ` David Rientjes
2017-01-10 13:01 ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-11 0:15 ` [patch v2] mm, thp: add new defer+madvise " David Rientjes
2017-01-11 7:35 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-01-12 8:01 ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-11 8:56 ` Mel Gorman
2017-01-12 0:16 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
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