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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch v2] mm, thp: add new defer+madvise defrag option
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 16:16:47 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170111161647.306e511a2478132ac9a3969e@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1701101614330.41805@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 16:15:27 -0800 (PST) David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com> wrote:

> There is no thp defrag option that currently allows MADV_HUGEPAGE regions 
> to do direct compaction and reclaim while all other thp allocations simply 
> trigger kswapd and kcompactd in the background and fail immediately.
> 
> The "defer" setting simply triggers background reclaim and compaction for 
> all regions, regardless of MADV_HUGEPAGE, which makes it unusable for our 
> userspace where MADV_HUGEPAGE is being used to indicate the application is 
> willing to wait for work for thp memory to be available.
> 
> The "madvise" setting will do direct compaction and reclaim for these
> MADV_HUGEPAGE regions, but does not trigger kswapd and kcompactd in the 
> background for anybody else.
> 
> For reasonable usage, there needs to be a mesh between the two options.  
> This patch introduces a fifth mode, "defer+madvise", that will do direct 
> reclaim and compaction for MADV_HUGEPAGE regions and trigger background 
> reclaim and compaction for everybody else so that hugepages may be 
> available in the near future.
> 
> A proposal to allow direct reclaim and compaction for MADV_HUGEPAGE 
> regions as part of the "defer" mode, making it a very powerful setting and 
> avoids breaking userspace, was offered: 
> http://marc.info/?t=148236612700003.  This additional mode is a 
> compromise.
> 
> A second proposal to allow both "defer" and "madvise" to be selected at
> the same time was also offered: http://marc.info/?t=148357345300001.
> This is possible, but there was a concern that it might break existing
> userspaces the parse the output of the defrag mode, so the fifth option
> was introduced instead.
> 
> This patch also cleans up the helper function for storing to "enabled" 
> and "defrag" since the former supports three modes while the latter 
> supports five and triple_flag_store() was getting unnecessarily messy.
> 
> --- a/Documentation/vm/transhuge.txt
> +++ b/Documentation/vm/transhuge.txt
> @@ -110,6 +110,7 @@ MADV_HUGEPAGE region.
>  
>  echo always >/sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/defrag
>  echo defer >/sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/defrag
> +echo defer+madvise >/sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/defrag
>  echo madvise >/sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/defrag
>  echo never >/sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/defrag
>  
> @@ -120,10 +121,15 @@ that benefit heavily from THP use and are willing to delay the VM start
>  to utilise them.
>  
>  "defer" means that an application will wake kswapd in the background
> -to reclaim pages and wake kcompact to compact memory so that THP is
> +to reclaim pages and wake kcompactd to compact memory so that THP is
>  available in the near future. It's the responsibility of khugepaged
>  to then install the THP pages later.
>  
> +"defer+madvise" will enter direct reclaim and compaction like "always", but
> +only for regions that have used madvise(MADV_HUGEPAGE); all other regions
> +will wake kswapd in the background to reclaim pages and wake kcompactd to
> +compact memory so that THP is available in the near future.
> +

It would be helpful if this text were to tell the reader why they may
choose to use this option: runtime effects, advantages, when-to-use,
when-not-to-use, etc.


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      parent reply	other threads:[~2017-01-12  0:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-04 23:41 [patch] mm, thp: add new background " David Rientjes
2017-01-05 10:13 ` Mel Gorman
2017-01-05 10:33   ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-05 13:58   ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-01-05 15:50     ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-05 22:54     ` David Rientjes
2017-01-06  8:41       ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-01-06 14:01         ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-06 22:20         ` David Rientjes
2017-01-09 10:04           ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-01-09 12:06             ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-01-10  2:19             ` David Rientjes
2017-01-10  3:38               ` Hugh Dickins
2017-01-10  8:44                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-01-10 23:52                   ` David Rientjes
2017-01-10 13:01               ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-11  0:15               ` [patch v2] mm, thp: add new defer+madvise " David Rientjes
2017-01-11  7:35                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-01-12  8:01                   ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-11  8:56                 ` Mel Gorman
2017-01-12  0:16                 ` Andrew Morton [this message]

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