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From: Jann Horn <jann@thejh.net>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [REVIEW][PATCH] mm: Add a user_ns owner to mm_struct and fix ptrace_may_access
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 15:57:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161018135741.GO14666@pc.thejh.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161018135031.GB13117@dhcp22.suse.cz>

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On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 03:50:32PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Mon 17-10-16 11:39:49, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> > 
> > During exec dumpable is cleared if the file that is being executed is
> > not readable by the user executing the file.  A bug in
> > ptrace_may_access allows reading the file if the executable happens to
> > enter into a subordinate user namespace (aka clone(CLONE_NEWUSER),
> > unshare(CLONE_NEWUSER), or setns(fd, CLONE_NEWUSER).
> > 
> > This problem is fixed with only necessary userspace breakage by adding
> > a user namespace owner to mm_struct, captured at the time of exec,
> > so it is clear in which user namespace CAP_SYS_PTRACE must be present
> > in to be able to safely give read permission to the executable.
> > 
> > The function ptrace_may_access is modified to verify that the ptracer
> > has CAP_SYS_ADMIN in task->mm->user_ns instead of task->cred->user_ns.
> > This ensures that if the task changes it's cred into a subordinate
> > user namespace it does not become ptraceable.
> 
> I haven't studied your patch too deeply but one thing that immediately 
> raised a red flag was that mm might be shared between processes (aka
> thread groups).

You're conflating things. Threads always share memory, but sharing memory
doesn't imply being part of the same thread group.

> What prevents those two to sit in different user
> namespaces?

For thread groups: You can't change user namespace in a thread group
with more than one task.

For shared mm: Yeah, I think that could happen - but it doesn't matter.
The patch just needs the mm to determine the namespace in which the mm
was created, and that's always the same for tasks that share mm.

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-18 13:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-17 16:39 Eric W. Biederman
2016-10-17 17:25 ` Jann Horn
2016-10-17 17:33   ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-10-18 13:50 ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-18 13:57   ` Jann Horn [this message]
2016-10-18 14:56   ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-10-18 15:05     ` Jann Horn
2016-10-18 15:35       ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-10-18 19:12         ` Jann Horn
2016-10-18 21:07           ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-10-18 21:15             ` [REVIEW][PATCH] exec: Don't exec files the userns root can not read Eric W. Biederman
2016-10-19  6:13               ` Amir Goldstein
2016-10-19 13:33                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-10-19 17:04                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-10-19 15:30               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-10-19 16:52                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-10-19 17:29                   ` Jann Horn
2016-10-19 17:32                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-10-19 17:55                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-10-19 18:38                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-10-19 21:26                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-10-19 23:17                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-11-17 17:02                               ` [REVIEW][PATCH 0/3] Fixing ptrace vs exec vs userns interactions Eric W. Biederman
2016-11-17 17:05                                 ` [REVIEW][PATCH 1/3] ptrace: Capture the ptracer's creds not PT_PTRACE_CAP Eric W. Biederman
2016-11-17 23:14                                   ` Kees Cook
2016-11-18 18:56                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-11-17 23:27                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-11-17 23:44                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-11-17 17:08                                 ` [REVIEW][PATCH 2/3] exec: Don't allow ptracing an exec of an unreadable file Eric W. Biederman
2016-11-17 20:47                                   ` Willy Tarreau
2016-11-17 21:07                                     ` Kees Cook
2016-11-17 21:32                                       ` Willy Tarreau
2016-11-17 21:51                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-11-17 22:50                                           ` [REVIEW][PATCH 2/3] ptrace: Don't allow accessing an undumpable mm Eric W. Biederman
2016-11-17 23:17                                             ` Kees Cook
2016-11-17 23:28                                       ` [REVIEW][PATCH 2/3] exec: Don't allow ptracing an exec of an unreadable file Andy Lutomirski
2016-11-17 23:29                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-11-17 23:55                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-11-18  0:10                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-11-18  0:35                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-11-17 17:10                                 ` [REVIEW][PATCH 3/3] exec: Ensure mm->user_ns contains the execed files Eric W. Biederman
2016-11-19  7:17                                 ` [REVIEW][PATCH 0/3] Fixing ptrace vs exec vs userns interactions Willy Tarreau
2016-11-19  9:28                                   ` Willy Tarreau
2016-11-19  9:33                                     ` Willy Tarreau
2016-11-19 18:44                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-11-19 18:35                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-11-19 18:37                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-10-19 18:36                   ` [REVIEW][PATCH] exec: Don't exec files the userns root can not read Andy Lutomirski
2016-10-18 18:06     ` [REVIEW][PATCH] mm: Add a user_ns owner to mm_struct and fix ptrace_may_access Michal Hocko

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