From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Laurent Dufour <ldufour@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Davidlohr Bueso <dbueso@suse.de>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: mmap_sem bottleneck
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 14:51:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161017125130.GU3142@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ea12b8ee-1892-fda1-8a83-20fdfdfa39c4@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 02:33:53PM +0200, Laurent Dufour wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm sorry to resurrect this topic, but with the increasing number of
> CPUs, this becomes more frequent that the mmap_sem is a bottleneck
> especially between the page fault handling and the other threads memory
> management calls.
>
> In the case I'm seeing, there is a lot of page fault occurring while
> other threads are trying to manipulate the process memory layout through
> mmap/munmap.
>
> There is no *real* conflict between these operations, the page fault are
> done a different page and areas that the one addressed by the mmap/unmap
> operations. Thus threads are dealing with different part of the
> process's memory space. However since page fault handlers and mmap/unmap
> operations grab the mmap_sem, the page fault handling are serialized
> with the mmap operations, which impact the performance on large system.
>
> For the record, the page fault are done while reading data from a file
> system, and I/O are really impacted by this serialization when dealing
> with a large number of parallel threads, in my case 192 threads (1 per
> online CPU). But the source of the page fault doesn't really matter I guess.
>
> I took time trying to figure out how to get rid of this bottleneck, but
> this is definitively too complex for me.
> I read this mailing history, and some LWN articles about that and my
> feeling is that there is no clear way to limit the impact of this
> semaphore. Last discussion on this topic seemed to happen last march
> during the LSFMM submit (https://lwn.net/Articles/636334/). But this
> doesn't seem to have lead to major changes, or may be I missed them.
>
> I'm now seeing that this is a big thing and that it would be hard and
> potentially massively intrusive to get rid of this bottleneck, and I'm
> wondering what could be to best approach here, RCU, range locks, etc..
>
> Does anyone have an idea ?
If its really just the pagefaults you care about you can have a look at
my speculative page fault stuff that I don't ever seem to get around to
updating :/
Latest version is here:
https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20141020215633.717315139@infradead.org
Plenty of bits left to sort with that, but the general idea is to use
the split page-table locks (PTLs) as range lock for the mmap_sem.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-10-17 12:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-10-17 12:33 Laurent Dufour
2016-10-17 12:51 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2016-10-18 14:50 ` Laurent Dufour
2016-10-18 15:01 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-10-18 15:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-18 11:08 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/7] Speculative page faults Laurent Dufour
2016-11-18 11:08 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/7] mm: Dont assume page-table invariance during faults Laurent Dufour
2016-11-18 11:08 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/7] mm: Prepare for FAULT_FLAG_SPECULATIVE Laurent Dufour
2016-11-18 11:08 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/7] mm: Introduce pte_spinlock Laurent Dufour
2016-11-18 11:08 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/7] mm: VMA sequence count Laurent Dufour
2016-11-18 11:08 ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/7] SRCU free VMAs Laurent Dufour
2016-11-18 11:08 ` [RFC PATCH v2 6/7] mm: Provide speculative fault infrastructure Laurent Dufour
2016-11-18 11:08 ` [RFC PATCH v2 7/7] mm,x86: Add speculative pagefault handling Laurent Dufour
2016-11-18 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/7] Speculative page faults Andi Kleen
2016-12-01 8:34 ` Laurent Dufour
2016-12-01 12:50 ` Balbir Singh
2016-12-01 13:26 ` Laurent Dufour
2016-12-02 14:10 ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-17 12:57 ` mmap_sem bottleneck Michal Hocko
2016-10-20 7:23 ` Laurent Dufour
2016-10-20 10:55 ` Michal Hocko
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