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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: Regression in mobility grouping?
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 12:14:02 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160929161402.GA29091@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160929061433.GF29250@js1304-P5Q-DELUXE>

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 03:14:33PM +0900, Joonsoo Kim wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 10:25:40PM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 11:39:25AM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 11:00:15AM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> > > > I guess testing revert of 9c0415e could give us some idea. Commit
> > > > 3a1086f shouldn't result in pageblock marking differences and as I said
> > > > above, 99592d5 should be just restoring to what 3.10 did.
> > > 
> > > I can give this a shot, but note that this commit makes only unmovable
> > > stealing more aggressive. We see reclaimable blocks up as well.
> > 
> > Quick update, I reverted back to stealing eagerly only on behalf of
> > MIGRATE_RECLAIMABLE allocations in a 4.6 kernel:
> 
> Hello, Johannes.
> 
> I think that it would be better to check 3.10 with above patches.
> Fragmentation depends on not only policy itself but also
> allocation/free pattern. There might be a large probability that
> allocation/free pattern is changed in this large kernel version
> difference.

You mean backport suspicious patches to 3.10 until I can reproduce it
there? I'm not sure. You're correct, the patterns very likely *have*
changed. But that alone cannot explain mobility grouping breaking that
badly. There is a reproducable bad behavior. It should be easier to
track down than to try to recreate it in the last-known-good kernel.

> > This is an UNMOVABLE order-3 allocation falling back to RECLAIMABLE.
> > According to can_steal_fallback(), this allocation shouldn't steal the
> > pageblock, yet change_ownership=1 indicates the block is UNMOVABLE.
> > 
> > Who converted it? I wonder if there is a bug in ownership management,
> > and there was an UNMOVABLE block on the RECLAIMABLE freelist from the
> > beginning. AFAICS we never validate list/mt consistency anywhere.
> 
> According to my code review, it would be possible. When stealing
> happens, we moved those buddy pages to current requested migratetype
> buddy list. If the other migratetype allocation request comes and
> stealing from the buddy list of previous requested migratetype
> happens, change_ownership will show '1' even if there is no ownership
> changing.

These two paths should exclude each other through the zone->lock, no?

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-29 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-28  1:41 Johannes Weiner
2016-09-28  9:00 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-09-28 15:39   ` Johannes Weiner
2016-09-29  2:25     ` Johannes Weiner
2016-09-29  6:14       ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-09-29 16:14         ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2016-10-13  7:33           ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-09-29  7:17       ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-09-28 10:26 ` Mel Gorman
2016-09-28 16:37   ` Johannes Weiner
2016-09-29 21:05 ` [RFC 0/4] try to reduce fragmenting fallbacks Vlastimil Babka
2016-09-29 21:05   ` [RFC 1/4] mm, compaction: change migrate_async_suitable() to suitable_migration_source() Vlastimil Babka
2016-09-29 21:05   ` [RFC 2/4] mm, compaction: add migratetype to compact_control Vlastimil Babka
2016-09-29 21:05   ` [RFC 3/4] mm, compaction: restrict async compaction to matching migratetype Vlastimil Babka
2016-09-29 21:05   ` [RFC 4/4] mm, page_alloc: disallow migratetype fallback in fastpath Vlastimil Babka
2016-10-12 14:51     ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-10-13  7:58     ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-10-13 11:46       ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-10-07  8:32   ` [RFC 5/4] mm, page_alloc: split smallest stolen page in fallback Vlastimil Babka
2016-10-10 17:16   ` [RFC 0/4] try to reduce fragmenting fallbacks Johannes Weiner
2016-10-11 13:11   ` [RFC 6/4] mm, page_alloc: introduce MIGRATE_MIXED migratetype Vlastimil Babka
2016-10-13 14:11   ` [RFC 7/4] mm, page_alloc: count movable pages when stealing Vlastimil Babka

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