From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
hannes@cmpxchg.org, mgorman@suse.de,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: warn about allocations which stall for too long
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 10:17:52 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160926081751.GD27030@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201609241200.AEE21807.OSOtQVOLHMFJFF@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
On Sat 24-09-16 12:00:07, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Fri 23-09-16 23:36:22, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> > > Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > @@ -3659,6 +3661,15 @@ __alloc_pages_slowpath(gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned int order,
> > > > else
> > > > no_progress_loops++;
> > > >
> > > > + /* Make sure we know about allocations which stall for too long */
> > > > + if (!(gfp_mask & __GFP_NOWARN) && time_after(jiffies, alloc_start + stall_timeout)) {
> > >
> > > Should we check !__GFP_NOWARN ? I think __GFP_NOWARN is likely used with
> > > __GFP_NORETRY, and __GFP_NORETRY is already checked by now.
> > >
> > > I think printing warning regardless of __GFP_NOWARN is better because
> > > this check is similar to hungtask warning.
> >
> > Well, if the user said to not warn we should really obey that. Why would
> > that matter?
>
> __GFP_NOWARN is defined as "Do not print failure messages when memory
> allocation failed". It is not defined as "Do not print OOM killer messages
> when OOM killer is invoked". It is undefined that "Do not print stall
> messages when memory allocation is stalling".
Which is kind of expected as we warned only about allocation failures up
to now.
> If memory allocating threads were blocked on locks instead of doing direct
> reclaim, hungtask will be able to find stalling memory allocations without
> this change. Since direct reclaim prevents allocating threads from sleeping
> for long enough to be warned by hungtask, it is important that this change
> shall find allocating threads which cannot be warned by hungtask. That is,
> not printing warning messages for __GFP_NOWARN allocation requests looses
> the value of this change.
I dunno. If the user explicitly requests to not have allocation warning
then I think we should obey that. But this is not something I would be
really insisting hard. If others think that the check should be dropped
I can live with that.
[...]
> > > ) rather than by line number, and surround __warn_memalloc_stall() call with
> > > mutex in order to serialize warning messages because it is possible that
> > > multiple allocation requests are stalling?
> >
> > we do not use any lock in warn_alloc_failed so why this should be any
> > different?
>
> warn_alloc_failed() is called for both __GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM and
> !__GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM allocation requests, and it is not allowed
> to sleep if !__GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM. Thus, we have to tolerate that
> concurrent memory allocation failure messages make dmesg output
> unreadable. But __warn_memalloc_stall() is called for only
> __GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM allocation requests. Thus, we are allowed to
> sleep in order to serialize concurrent memory allocation stall
> messages.
I still do not see a point. A single line about the warning and locked
dump_stack sounds sufficient to me.
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-09-26 8:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-09-23 8:15 Michal Hocko
2016-09-23 8:29 ` Hillf Danton
2016-09-23 8:32 ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-23 8:44 ` Hillf Danton
2016-09-23 9:15 ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-23 14:36 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-09-23 15:02 ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-24 3:00 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-09-26 8:17 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2016-09-27 12:57 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-09-29 8:48 ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-23 17:34 ` Dave Hansen
2016-09-24 13:19 ` Balbir Singh
2016-09-26 8:13 ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-26 8:12 ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-29 8:44 ` [PATCH 0/2] " Michal Hocko
2016-09-29 8:44 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: consolidate warn_alloc_failed users Michal Hocko
2016-09-29 9:23 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-09-29 8:44 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: warn about allocations which stall for too long Michal Hocko
2016-09-29 9:02 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-09-29 9:10 ` Michal Hocko
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