From: Shaohua Li <shli@kernel.org>
To: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
tim.c.chen@intel.com, dave.hansen@intel.com,
andi.kleen@intel.com, aaron.lu@intel.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@virtuozzo.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -v3 00/10] THP swap: Delay splitting THP during swapping out
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 15:56:08 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160922225608.GA3898@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1473266769-2155-1-git-send-email-ying.huang@intel.com>
On Wed, Sep 07, 2016 at 09:45:59AM -0700, Huang, Ying wrote:
>
> The advantages of the THP swap support include:
>
> - Batch the swap operations for the THP to reduce lock
> acquiring/releasing, including allocating/freeing the swap space,
> adding/deleting to/from the swap cache, and writing/reading the swap
> space, etc. This will help improve the performance of the THP swap.
>
> - The THP swap space read/write will be 2M sequential IO. It is
> particularly helpful for the swap read, which usually are 4k random
> IO. This will improve the performance of the THP swap too.
I think this is not a problem. Even with current early split, we are allocating
swap entry sequentially, after IO is dispatched, block layer will merge IO to
big size.
> - It will help the memory fragmentation, especially when the THP is
> heavily used by the applications. The 2M continuous pages will be
> free up after THP swapping out.
So this is impossible without THP swapin. While 2M swapout makes a lot of
sense, I doubt 2M swapin is really useful. What kind of application is
'optimized' to do sequential memory access?
One advantage of THP swapout is to reduce TLB flush. Eg, when we split 2m to 4k
pages, we set swap entry for the 4k pages since your patch already allocates
swap entry before the split, so we only do tlb flush once in the split. Without
the delay THP split, we do twice tlb flush (split and unmap of swapout). I
don't see this in the patches, do I misread the code?
Thanks,
Shaohua
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Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-09-07 16:45 Huang, Ying
2016-09-07 16:46 ` [PATCH -v3 01/10] mm, swap: Make swap cluster size same of THP size on x86_64 Huang, Ying
2016-09-08 5:45 ` Anshuman Khandual
2016-09-08 18:07 ` Huang, Ying
2016-09-19 17:09 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-09-20 2:01 ` Huang, Ying
2016-09-22 19:25 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-09-23 8:47 ` Huang, Ying
2016-09-08 8:21 ` Anshuman Khandual
2016-09-08 11:03 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-09-08 17:39 ` Huang, Ying
2016-09-08 11:07 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-09-08 17:23 ` Huang, Ying
2016-09-07 16:46 ` [PATCH -v3 02/10] mm, memcg: Add swap_cgroup_iter iterator Huang, Ying
2016-09-07 16:46 ` [PATCH -v3 03/10] mm, memcg: Support to charge/uncharge multiple swap entries Huang, Ying
2016-09-08 5:46 ` Anshuman Khandual
2016-09-08 8:28 ` Anshuman Khandual
2016-09-08 18:15 ` Huang, Ying
2016-09-07 16:46 ` [PATCH -v3 04/10] mm, THP, swap: Add swap cluster allocate/free functions Huang, Ying
2016-09-08 5:49 ` Anshuman Khandual
2016-09-08 8:30 ` Anshuman Khandual
2016-09-08 18:14 ` Huang, Ying
2016-09-07 16:46 ` [PATCH -v3 05/10] mm, THP, swap: Add get_huge_swap_page() Huang, Ying
2016-09-08 11:13 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-09-08 17:22 ` Huang, Ying
2016-09-07 16:46 ` [PATCH -v3 06/10] mm, THP, swap: Support to clear SWAP_HAS_CACHE for huge page Huang, Ying
2016-09-07 16:46 ` [PATCH -v3 07/10] mm, THP, swap: Support to add/delete THP to/from swap cache Huang, Ying
2016-09-08 9:00 ` Anshuman Khandual
2016-09-08 18:10 ` Huang, Ying
2016-09-07 16:46 ` [PATCH -v3 08/10] mm, THP: Add can_split_huge_page() Huang, Ying
2016-09-08 11:17 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-09-08 17:02 ` Huang, Ying
2016-09-07 16:46 ` [PATCH -v3 09/10] mm, THP, swap: Support to split THP in swap cache Huang, Ying
2016-09-07 16:46 ` [PATCH -v3 10/10] mm, THP, swap: Delay splitting THP during swap out Huang, Ying
2016-09-09 5:43 ` [PATCH -v3 00/10] THP swap: Delay splitting THP during swapping out Minchan Kim
2016-09-09 15:53 ` Tim Chen
2016-09-09 20:35 ` Huang, Ying
2016-09-13 6:13 ` Minchan Kim
2016-09-13 6:40 ` Huang, Ying
2016-09-13 7:05 ` Minchan Kim
2016-09-13 8:53 ` Huang, Ying
2016-09-13 9:16 ` Minchan Kim
2016-09-13 23:52 ` Chen, Tim C
2016-09-19 7:11 ` Minchan Kim
2016-09-19 15:59 ` Tim Chen
2016-09-18 1:53 ` Huang, Ying
2016-09-19 7:08 ` Minchan Kim
2016-09-20 2:54 ` Huang, Ying
2016-09-20 5:06 ` Minchan Kim
2016-09-20 5:28 ` Huang, Ying
2016-09-13 14:35 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-09-19 17:33 ` Hugh Dickins
2016-09-22 22:56 ` Shaohua Li [this message]
2016-09-22 23:49 ` Chen, Tim C
2016-09-22 23:53 ` Andi Kleen
2016-09-23 0:38 ` Rik van Riel
2016-09-23 2:32 ` Huang, Ying
2016-09-25 19:18 ` Shaohua Li
2016-09-26 1:06 ` Minchan Kim
2016-09-26 3:25 ` Huang, Ying
2016-09-23 2:12 ` Huang, Ying
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