From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/4] mm, oom: get rid of TIF_MEMDIE
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 10:41:18 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160915144118.GB25519@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1472723464-22866-1-git-send-email-mhocko@kernel.org>
Hi Michal,
On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 11:51:00AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> Hi,
> this is an early RFC to see whether the approach I've taken is acceptable.
> The series is on top of the current mmotm tree (2016-08-31-16-06). I didn't
> get to test it so it might be completely broken.
>
> The primary point of this series is to get rid of TIF_MEMDIE finally.
> Recent changes in the oom proper allows for that finally, I believe. Now
> that all the oom victims are reapable we are no longer depending on
> ALLOC_NO_WATERMARKS because the memory held by the victim is reclaimed
> asynchronously. A partial access to memory reserves should be sufficient
> just to guarantee that the oom victim is not starved due to other
> memory consumers. This also means that we do not have to pretend to be
> conservative and give access to memory reserves only to one thread from
> the process at the time. This is patch 1.
>
> Patch 2 is a simple cleanup which turns TIF_MEMDIE users to tsk_is_oom_victim
> which is process rather than thread centric. None of those callers really
> requires to be thread aware AFAICS.
>
> The tricky part then is exit_oom_victim vs. oom_killer_disable because
> TIF_MEMDIE acted as a token there so we had a way to count threads from
> the process. It didn't work 100% reliably and had it own issues but we
> have to replace it with something which doesn't rely on counting threads
> but rather find a moment when all threads have reached steady state in
> do_exit. This is what patch 3 does and I would really appreciate if Oleg
> could double check my thinking there. I am also CCing Al on that one
> because I am moving exit_io_context up in do_exit right before exit_notify.
You're explaining the mechanical thing you are doing, but I'm having
trouble understanding why you want to get rid of TIF_MEMDIE. For one,
it's more code. And apparently, it's also more complicated than what
we have right now.
Can you please explain in the cover letter what's broken/undesirable?
Thanks
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-09-15 14:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-09-01 9:51 Michal Hocko
2016-09-01 9:51 ` [RFC 1/4] mm, oom: do not rely on TIF_MEMDIE for memory reserves access Michal Hocko
2016-09-04 1:49 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-09-09 14:00 ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-01 9:51 ` [RFC 2/4] mm: replace TIF_MEMDIE checks by tsk_is_oom_victim Michal Hocko
2016-09-04 1:49 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-09-09 14:05 ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-01 9:51 ` [RFC 3/4] mm, oom: do not rely on TIF_MEMDIE for exit_oom_victim Michal Hocko
2016-09-04 1:50 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-09-09 14:08 ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-10 6:29 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-09-10 12:55 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-09-12 9:11 ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-13 6:25 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-09-13 7:21 ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-14 13:50 ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-01 9:51 ` [RFC 4/4] arch: get rid of TIF_MEMDIE Michal Hocko
2016-09-15 14:41 ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2016-09-16 7:15 ` [RFC 0/4] mm, oom: " Michal Hocko
2016-09-19 16:18 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-09-19 19:02 ` Michal Hocko
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