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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, rientjes@google.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/4] mm, oom: do not rely on TIF_MEMDIE for memory reserves access
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 16:00:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160909140020.GN4844@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201609041049.GIF51522.FOHLOJVSFOFMtQ@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>

On Sun 04-09-16 10:49:42, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> Michal Hocko wrote:
[...]
> > @@ -3309,6 +3318,22 @@ gfp_to_alloc_flags(gfp_t gfp_mask)
> >  	return alloc_flags;
> >  }
> >  
> > +static bool oom_reserves_allowed(struct task_struct *tsk)
> > +{
> > +	if (!tsk_is_oom_victim(tsk))
> > +		return false;
> > +
> > +	/*
> > +	 * !MMU doesn't have oom reaper so we shouldn't risk the memory reserves
> > +	 * depletion and shouldn't give access to memory reserves passed the
> > +	 * exit_mm
> > +	 */
> > +	if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_MMU) && !tsk->mm)
> > +		return false;
> > +
> > +	return true;
> > +}
> > +
> 
> Are you aware that you are trying to make !MMU kernel's allocations not only
> after returning exit_mm() but also from __mmput() from mmput() from exit_mm()
> fail without allowing access to memory reserves?

Do we allocate from that path in !mmu and would that be more broken than
with the current code which clears TIF_MEMDIE after mmput even when
__mmput is not called (aka somebody is holding a reference to mm - e.g.
a proc file)?

> The comment says only after returning exit_mm(), but this change is
> not.

I can see that the comment is not ideal. Any suggestion how to make it
better?
 
> > @@ -3558,8 +3593,8 @@ __alloc_pages_slowpath(gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned int order,
> >  		goto nopage;
> >  	}
> >  
> > -	/* Avoid allocations with no watermarks from looping endlessly */
> > -	if (test_thread_flag(TIF_MEMDIE) && !(gfp_mask & __GFP_NOFAIL))
> > +	/* Avoid allocations for oom victims from looping endlessly */
> > +	if (tsk_is_oom_victim(current) && !(gfp_mask & __GFP_NOFAIL))
> >  		goto nopage;
> 
> This change increases possibility of giving up without trying ALLOC_OOM
> (more allocation failure messages), for currently only one thread which
> remotely got TIF_MEMDIE when it was between gfp_to_alloc_flags() and
> test_thread_flag(TIF_MEMDIE) will give up without trying ALLOC_NO_WATERMARKS
> while all threads which remotely got current->signal->oom_mm when they were
> between gfp_to_alloc_flags() and test_thread_flag(TIF_MEMDIE) will give up
> without trying ALLOC_OOM. I think we should make sure that ALLOC_OOM is
> tried (by using a variable which remembers whether
> get_page_from_freelist(ALLOC_OOM) was tried).

Technically speaking you are right but I am not really sure that this
matters all that much. This code as always been racy. If we ever
consider the race harmfull we can reorganize the allo slow path in a way
to guarantee at least one allocation attempt with ALLOC_OOM I am just
not sure it is necessary right now. If this ever shows up as a problem
we would see a flood of allocation failures followed by the OOM report
so it would be quite easy to notice.

> We are currently allowing TIF_MEMDIE threads try ALLOC_NO_WATERMARKS for
> once and give up without invoking the OOM killer. This change makes
> current->signal->oom_mm threads try ALLOC_OOM for once and give up without
> invoking the OOM killer. This means that allocations for cleanly cleaning
> up by oom victims might fail prematurely, but we don't want to scatter
> around __GFP_NOFAIL. Since there are reasonable chances of the parallel
> memory freeing, we don't need to give up without invoking the OOM killer
> again. I think that
> 
> -	/* Avoid allocations with no watermarks from looping endlessly */
> -	if (test_thread_flag(TIF_MEMDIE) && !(gfp_mask & __GFP_NOFAIL))
> +#ifndef CONFIG_MMU
> +	/* Avoid allocations for oom victims from looping endlessly */
> +	if (tsk_is_oom_victim(current) && !(gfp_mask & __GFP_NOFAIL))
> +		goto nopage;
> +#endif
> 
> is possible.

I would prefer to not spread out MMU ifdefs all over the place.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-09 14:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-01  9:51 [RFC 0/4] mm, oom: get rid of TIF_MEMDIE Michal Hocko
2016-09-01  9:51 ` [RFC 1/4] mm, oom: do not rely on TIF_MEMDIE for memory reserves access Michal Hocko
2016-09-04  1:49   ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-09-09 14:00     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2016-09-01  9:51 ` [RFC 2/4] mm: replace TIF_MEMDIE checks by tsk_is_oom_victim Michal Hocko
2016-09-04  1:49   ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-09-09 14:05     ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-01  9:51 ` [RFC 3/4] mm, oom: do not rely on TIF_MEMDIE for exit_oom_victim Michal Hocko
2016-09-04  1:50   ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-09-09 14:08     ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-10  6:29       ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-09-10 12:55         ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-09-12  9:11           ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-13  6:25             ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-09-13  7:21               ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-14 13:50   ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-01  9:51 ` [RFC 4/4] arch: get rid of TIF_MEMDIE Michal Hocko
2016-09-15 14:41 ` [RFC 0/4] mm, oom: " Johannes Weiner
2016-09-16  7:15   ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-19 16:18     ` Johannes Weiner
2016-09-19 19:02       ` Michal Hocko

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