From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
Ondrej Kozina <okozina@redhat.com>,
Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
dm-devel@redhat.com, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] mempool: do not consume memory reserves from the reclaim path
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 09:49:35 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160719074935.GC9486@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1607181858020.16586@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
On Mon 18-07-16 19:00:57, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Jul 2016, Michal Hocko wrote:
>
> > David Rientjes was objecting that such an approach wouldn't help if the
> > oom victim was blocked on a lock held by process doing mempool_alloc. This
> > is very similar to other oom deadlock situations and we have oom_reaper
> > to deal with them so it is reasonable to rely on the same mechanism
> > rather inventing a different one which has negative side effects.
> >
>
> Right, this causes oom livelock as described in the aforementioned thread:
> the oom victim is waiting on a mutex that is held by a thread doing
> mempool_alloc().
The backtrace you have provided:
schedule
schedule_timeout
io_schedule_timeout
mempool_alloc
__split_and_process_bio
dm_request
generic_make_request
submit_bio
mpage_readpages
ext4_readpages
__do_page_cache_readahead
ra_submit
filemap_fault
handle_mm_fault
__do_page_fault
do_page_fault
page_fault
is not PF_MEMALLOC context AFAICS so clearing __GFP_NOMEMALLOC for such
a task will not help unless that task has TIF_MEMDIE. Could you provide
a trace where the PF_MEMALLOC context holding a lock cannot make a
forward progress?
> The oom reaper is not guaranteed to free any memory, so
> nothing on the system can allocate memory from the page allocator.
Sure, there is no guarantee but as I've said earlier, 1) oom_reaper will
allow to select another victim in many cases and 2) such a deadlock is
no different from any other where the victim cannot continue because of
another context blocking a lock while waiting for memory. Tweaking
mempool allocator to potentially catch such a case in a different way
doesn't sound right in principle, not to mention this is other dangerous
side effects.
> I think the better solution here is to allow mempool_alloc() users to set
> __GFP_NOMEMALLOC if they are in a context which allows them to deplete
> memory reserves.
I am not really sure about that. I agree with Johannes [1] that this
is bending mempool allocator into an undesirable direction because
the point of the mempool is to have its own reliably reusable memory
reserves. Now I am even not sure whether TIF_MEMDIE exception is a
good way forward and a plain revert is more appropriate. Let's CC
Johannes. The patch is [2].
[1] http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20160718151445.GB14604@cmpxchg.org
[2] http://lkml.kernel.org/r/1468831285-27242-1-git-send-email-mhocko@kernel.org
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-07-19 7:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-07-18 8:39 [RFC PATCH 0/2] mempool vs. page allocator interaction Michal Hocko
2016-07-18 8:41 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] mempool: do not consume memory reserves from the reclaim path Michal Hocko
2016-07-18 8:41 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] mm, mempool: do not throttle PF_LESS_THROTTLE tasks Michal Hocko
2016-07-19 21:50 ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-22 8:46 ` NeilBrown
2016-07-22 9:04 ` NeilBrown
2016-07-22 9:15 ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-23 0:12 ` NeilBrown
2016-07-25 8:32 ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-25 19:23 ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-26 7:07 ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-27 3:43 ` [dm-devel] " NeilBrown
2016-07-27 18:24 ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-27 21:33 ` NeilBrown
2016-07-28 7:17 ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-03 12:53 ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-08-03 14:34 ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-04 18:49 ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-08-12 12:32 ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-13 17:34 ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-08-14 10:34 ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-15 16:15 ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-11-23 21:11 ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-11-24 13:29 ` Michal Hocko
2016-11-24 17:10 ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-11-28 14:06 ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-25 21:52 ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-26 7:25 ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-27 4:02 ` [dm-devel] " NeilBrown
2016-07-27 14:28 ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-27 18:40 ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-03 13:59 ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-08-03 14:42 ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-04 18:46 ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-27 21:36 ` NeilBrown
2016-07-19 2:00 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] mempool: do not consume memory reserves from the reclaim path David Rientjes
2016-07-19 7:49 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2016-07-19 13:54 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-19 14:19 ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-19 22:01 ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-19 20:45 ` David Rientjes
2016-07-20 8:15 ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-20 21:06 ` David Rientjes
2016-07-21 8:52 ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-21 12:13 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-21 14:53 ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-21 15:26 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-07-22 1:41 ` NeilBrown
2016-07-22 6:37 ` Michal Hocko
2016-07-22 12:26 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-07-22 19:44 ` Andrew Morton
2016-07-23 18:52 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-07-19 21:50 ` Mikulas Patocka
2016-07-20 6:44 ` Michal Hocko
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