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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>, Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 06/12] kthread: Add kthread_drain_worker()
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 09:05:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160624070515.GU30154@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160623213258.GO3262@mtj.duckdns.org>

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 05:32:58PM -0400, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 10:54:45PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > + * The caller is responsible for blocking all users of this kthread
> > > + * worker from queuing new works. Also it is responsible for blocking
> > > + * the already queued works from an infinite re-queuing!
> > 
> > This, I really dislike that. And it makes the kthread_destroy_worker()
> > from the next patch unnecessarily fragile.
> > 
> > Why not add a kthread_worker::blocked flag somewhere and refuse/WARN
> > kthread_queue_work() when that is set.
> 
> It's the same logic from workqueue counterpart.

So ? Clearly it (the kthread workqueue) can be improved here.

> For workqueue, nothing can make it less fragile as the workqueue
> struct itself is freed on destruction.  If its users fail to stop
> issuing work items, it'll lead to use-after-free.

Right, but this kthread thingy does not, so why not add a failsafe?

> IIRC, the draining of self-requeueing work items is a specific
> requirement from some edge use case which used workqueue to implement
> multi-step state machine. 

Right, that might be an issue,

> Given how rare that is 

Could you then not remove/rework these few cases for workqueue as well
and make that 'better' too?

> and the extra
> complexity of identifying self-requeueing cases, let's forget about
> draining and on destruction clear the worker pointer to block further
> queueing and then flush whatever is in flight.

You're talking about regular workqueues here?

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-24  7:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-16 11:17 [PATCH v9 00/12] kthread: Kthread worker API improvements Petr Mladek
2016-06-16 11:17 ` [PATCH v9 01/12] kthread: Rename probe_kthread_data() to kthread_probe_data() Petr Mladek
2016-06-20 19:16   ` Tejun Heo
2016-06-16 11:17 ` [PATCH v9 02/12] kthread: Kthread worker API cleanup Petr Mladek
2016-06-20 19:27   ` Tejun Heo
2016-06-16 11:17 ` [PATCH v9 03/12] kthread/smpboot: Do not park in kthread_create_on_cpu() Petr Mladek
2016-06-16 11:17 ` [PATCH v9 04/12] kthread: Allow to call __kthread_create_on_node() with va_list args Petr Mladek
2016-06-20 19:51   ` Tejun Heo
2016-06-16 11:17 ` [PATCH v9 05/12] kthread: Add kthread_create_worker*() Petr Mladek
2016-06-20 19:55   ` Tejun Heo
2016-06-16 11:17 ` [PATCH v9 06/12] kthread: Add kthread_drain_worker() Petr Mladek
2016-06-20 19:56   ` Tejun Heo
2016-06-22 20:54   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-23 21:32     ` Tejun Heo
2016-06-24  7:05       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2016-06-24  9:08         ` Petr Mladek
2016-06-24 15:54         ` Tejun Heo
2016-06-27 14:33           ` Petr Mladek
2016-06-28 17:04             ` Tejun Heo
2016-06-29  8:17               ` Petr Mladek
2016-06-29 13:15                 ` Tejun Heo
2016-06-16 11:17 ` [PATCH v9 07/12] kthread: Add kthread_destroy_worker() Petr Mladek
2016-06-20 19:57   ` Tejun Heo
2016-06-16 11:17 ` [PATCH v9 08/12] kthread: Detect when a kthread work is used by more workers Petr Mladek
2016-06-20 20:10   ` Tejun Heo
2016-06-16 11:17 ` [PATCH v9 09/12] kthread: Initial support for delayed kthread work Petr Mladek
2016-06-20 20:20   ` Tejun Heo
2016-06-16 11:17 ` [PATCH v9 10/12] kthread: Allow to cancel " Petr Mladek
2016-06-20 20:27   ` Tejun Heo
2016-06-16 11:17 ` [PATCH v9 11/12] kthread: Allow to modify delayed " Petr Mladek
2016-06-20 20:29   ` Tejun Heo
2016-06-16 11:17 ` [PATCH v9 12/12] kthread: Better support freezable kthread workers Petr Mladek
2016-06-20 20:30   ` Tejun Heo

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