From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-vk0-f69.google.com (mail-vk0-f69.google.com [209.85.213.69]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF016B007E for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 11:10:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-vk0-f69.google.com with SMTP id w185so219618005vkf.3 for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2016 08:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com. [209.132.183.28]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v82si2608960qkb.250.2016.06.03.08.10.04 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 03 Jun 2016 08:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 17:10:01 +0200 From: Andrea Arcangeli Subject: Re: [linux-next: Tree for Jun 1] __khugepaged_exit rwsem_down_write_failed lockup Message-ID: <20160603151001.GG29930@redhat.com> References: <20160601131122.7dbb0a65@canb.auug.org.au> <20160602014835.GA635@swordfish> <20160602092113.GH1995@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20160602120857.GA704@swordfish> <20160602122109.GM1995@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20160603135154.GD29930@redhat.com> <20160603144600.GK20676@dhcp22.suse.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160603144600.GK20676@dhcp22.suse.cz> Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org List-ID: To: Michal Hocko Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky , Sergey Senozhatsky , Andrew Morton , Vlastimil Babka , "Kirill A. Shutemov" , Stephen Rothwell , linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-next@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Hugh Dickins Hello Michal, CC'ed Hugh, On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 04:46:00PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote: > What do you think about the external dependencies mentioned above. Do > you think this is a sufficient argument wrt. occasional higher > latencies? It's a tradeoff and both latencies would be short and uncommon so it's hard to tell. There's also mmput_async for paths that may care about mmput latencies. Exit itself cannot use it, it's mostly for people taking the mm_users pin that may not want to wait for mmput to run. It also shouldn't happen that often, it's a slow path. The whole model inherited from KSM is to deliberately depend only on the mmap_sem + test_exit + mm_count, and never on mm_users, which to me in principle doesn't sound bad. I consider KSM version a "finegrined" implementation but I never thought it would be a problem to wait a bit in exit() in case the slow path hits. I thought it was more of a problem if exit() runs, the parent then start a new task but the memory wasn't freed yet. So I would suggest Hugh to share his view on the down_write/up_write that may temporarily block mmput (until the next test_exit bailout point) vs higher latency in reaching exit_mmap for a real exit(2) that would happen with the proposed change. Thanks! Andrea -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: email@kvack.org