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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, rientjes@google.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, oleg@redhat.com,
	vdavydov@parallels.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] mm, oom_reaper: do not attempt to reap a task morethan twice
Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 15:35:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160527133502.GN27686@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201605272218.JID39544.tFOQHJOMVFLOSF@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>

On Fri 27-05-16 22:18:42, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Fri 27-05-16 19:31:19, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> > > Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I believe that after [1] and this patch we can reasonably expect that
> > > > the risk of the oom lockups is so low that we do not need to employ
> > > > timeout based solutions. I am sending this as an RFC because there still
> > > > might be better ways to accomplish the similar effect. I just like this
> > > > one because it is nicely grafted into the oom reaper which will now be
> > > > invoked for basically all oom victims.
> > > > 
> > > > [1] http://lkml.kernel.org/r/1464266415-15558-1-git-send-email-mhocko@kernel.org
> > > 
> > > I still cannot agree with "we do not need to employ timeout based solutions".
> > > 
> > > While it is true that OOM-reap is per "struct mm_struct" action, we don't
> > > need to change user visible oom_score_adj interface by [1] in order to
> > > enforce OOM-kill being per "struct mm_struct" action.
> > 
> > We want to change the oom_score_adj behavior for the pure consistency I
> > believe.
> 
> Is it an agreed conclusion rather than your will? Did userspace developers ack?

If you think this is not the right approach then please comment as a
reply to the patch.

[...]

> > So this is the biggest change to my approach. And I think it is
> > incorrect because you cannot simply reap the memory when you have active
> > users of that memory potentially.
> 
> I don't reap the memory when I have active users of that memory potentially.
> I do below check. I'm calling wake_oom_reaper() in order to guarantee that
> oom_reap_task() shall clear TIF_MEMDIE and drop oom_victims.
> 
> @@ -483,7 +527,7 @@ static bool __oom_reap_task(struct task_struct *tsk)
>  
>  	task_unlock(p);
>  
> -	if (!down_read_trylock(&mm->mmap_sem)) {
> +	if (!mm_is_reapable(mm) || !down_read_trylock(&mm->mmap_sem)) {
>  		ret = false;
>  		goto unlock_oom;
>  	}

OK, I've missed this part. So you just defer the decision to the oom
reaper while I am trying to solve that at oom_kill_process level.
We could very well do 
diff --git a/mm/oom_kill.c b/mm/oom_kill.c
index bcb6d3b26c94..d9017b8c7300 100644
--- a/mm/oom_kill.c
+++ b/mm/oom_kill.c
@@ -813,6 +813,7 @@ void oom_kill_process(struct oom_control *oc, struct task_struct *p,
 			 * memory might be still used.
 			 */
 			can_oom_reap = false;
+			set_bit(MMF_OOM_REAPED, mm->flags);
 			continue;
 		}
 		if (p->signal->oom_score_adj == OOM_ADJUST_MIN)

with the same result. If you _really_ think that this would make a
difference I could live with that. But I am highly skeptical this
matters all that much.

> 
> >                                   Shared with global init is just non
> > existant problem. Such a system would be crippled enough to not bother.
> 
> See commit a2b829d95958da20 ("mm/oom_kill.c: avoid attempting to kill init
> sharing same memory").

Don't you think that a system where the largest memory consumer is the
global init is crippled terribly?

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-27 13:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-26 15:27 [RFC PATCH] mm, oom_reaper: do not attempt to reap a task more than twice Michal Hocko
2016-05-27 10:31 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-05-27 12:23   ` Michal Hocko
2016-05-27 13:18     ` [RFC PATCH] mm, oom_reaper: do not attempt to reap a task morethan twice Tetsuo Handa
2016-05-27 13:35       ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2016-05-27 16:24         ` [RFC PATCH] mm, oom_reaper: do not attempt to reap a task more than twice Tetsuo Handa
2016-05-28 12:22           ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-05-30 11:57             ` Michal Hocko
2016-05-30 11:55           ` Michal Hocko

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