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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@mellanox.com>
Cc: Gilad Ben Yossef <giladb@ezchip.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
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	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 04/13] task_isolation: add initial support
Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 19:09:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160518170951.GM3193@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8e8b24ec-abc6-e599-ad50-218e350213ce@mellanox.com>

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 12:34:22PM -0400, Chris Metcalf wrote:
> On 5/18/2016 9:34 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >On Tue, Apr 05, 2016 at 01:38:33PM -0400, Chris Metcalf wrote:
> >>diff --git a/kernel/signal.c b/kernel/signal.c
> >>index aa9bf00749c1..53e4e62f2778 100644
> >>--- a/kernel/signal.c
> >>+++ b/kernel/signal.c
> >>@@ -34,6 +34,7 @@
> >>  #include <linux/compat.h>
> >>  #include <linux/cn_proc.h>
> >>  #include <linux/compiler.h>
> >>+#include <linux/isolation.h>
> >>  #define CREATE_TRACE_POINTS
> >>  #include <trace/events/signal.h>
> >>@@ -2213,6 +2214,9 @@ relock:
> >>  		/* Trace actually delivered signals. */
> >>  		trace_signal_deliver(signr, &ksig->info, ka);
> >>+		/* Disable task isolation when delivering a signal. */
> >Why !? Changelog is quiet on this.
> 
> There are really two reasons.
> 
> 1. If the task is receiving a signal, it will know it's not isolated
>    any more, so we don't need to worry about notifying it explicitly.
>    This behavior is easy to document and allows the application to decide
>    if the signal is unexpected and it should go straight to its error
>    handling path (likely outcome, and in that case you want task isolation
>    off anyway) or if it thinks it can plausibly re-enable isolation and
>    return to where the signal interrupted you at (hard to imagine how this
>    would ever make sense, but you could if you wanted to).
> 
> 2. When we are delivering a signal we may already be holding the lock
>    for the signal subsystem, and it gets hard to figure out whether it's
>    safe to send another signal to the application as a "task isolation
>    broken" notification.  For example, sending a signal to a task on
>    another core involves doing an IPI to that core to kick it; the IPI
>    normally is a generic point for notifying the remote core of broken
>    task isolation and sending a signal - except that at the point where
>    we would do that on the signal path we are already holding the lock,
>    so we end up deadlocked.  We could no doubt work around that, but it
>    seemed cleaner to decouple the existing signal mechanism from the
>    signal delivery for task isolation.
> 
> I will add more discussion of the rationale to the commit message.

Please also expand the in-code comment, as that is what we'll see first
when reading the code.

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      reply	other threads:[~2016-05-18 17:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1459877922-15512-1-git-send-email-cmetcalf@mellanox.com>
2016-04-05 17:38 ` [PATCH v12 02/13] vmstat: add vmstat_idle function Chris Metcalf
2016-04-05 17:38 ` [PATCH v12 03/13] lru_add_drain_all: factor out lru_add_drain_needed Chris Metcalf
2016-04-05 17:38 ` [PATCH v12 04/13] task_isolation: add initial support Chris Metcalf
2016-05-18 13:34   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-18 16:34     ` Chris Metcalf
2016-05-18 17:09       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]

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