From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
mgorman@techsingularity.net, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] mm/page_owner: use stackdepot to store stacktrace
Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 11:21:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160504092133.GG29978@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160504021449.GA10256@js1304-P5Q-DELUXE>
On Wed 04-05-16 11:14:50, Joonsoo Kim wrote:
> On Tue, May 03, 2016 at 10:53:56AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Tue 03-05-16 14:23:04, Joonsoo Kim wrote:
[...]
> > > Memory saving looks as following. (Boot 4GB memory system with page_owner)
> > >
> > > 92274688 bytes -> 25165824 bytes
> >
> > It is not clear to me whether this is after a fresh boot or some workload
> > which would grow the stack depot as well. What is a usual cap for the
> > memory consumption.
>
> It is static allocation size after a fresh boot. I didn't add size of
> dynamic allocation memory so it could be larger a little. See below line.
> >
> > > 72% reduction in static allocation size. Even if we should add up size of
> > > dynamic allocation memory, it would not that big because stacktrace is
> > > mostly duplicated.
This would be true only if most of the allocation stacks are basically
same after the boot which I am not really convinced is true. But you are
right that the number of sublicates will grow only a little. I was
interested about how much is that little ;)
> > > Note that implementation looks complex than someone would imagine because
> > > there is recursion issue. stackdepot uses page allocator and page_owner
> > > is called at page allocation. Using stackdepot in page_owner could re-call
> > > page allcator and then page_owner. That is a recursion.
> >
> > This is rather fragile. How do we check there is no lock dependency
> > introduced later on - e.g. split_page called from a different
> > locking/reclaim context than alloc_pages? Would it be safer to
>
> There is no callsite that calls set_page_owner() with
> __GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM. So, there would be no lock/context dependency
> now.
I am confused now. prep_new_page is called with the gfp_mask of the
original request, no?
> split_page() doesn't call set_page_owner(). Instead, it calls
> split_page_owner() and just copies previous entry. Since it doesn't
> require any new stackdepot entry, it is safe in any context.
Ohh, you are right. I have missed patch 4
(http://lkml.kernel.org/r/1462252984-8524-5-git-send-email-iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com)
> > use ~__GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM for those stack allocations? Or do you think
> > there would be too many failed allocations? This alone wouldn't remove a
> > need for the recursion detection but it sounds less tricky.
> >
> > > To detect and
> > > avoid it, whenever we obtain stacktrace, recursion is checked and
> > > page_owner is set to dummy information if found. Dummy information means
> > > that this page is allocated for page_owner feature itself
> > > (such as stackdepot) and it's understandable behavior for user.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>
> >
> > I like the idea in general I just wish this would be less subtle. Few
> > more comments below.
> >
> > [...]
> > > -void __set_page_owner(struct page *page, unsigned int order, gfp_t gfp_mask)
> > > +static inline bool check_recursive_alloc(struct stack_trace *trace,
> > > + unsigned long ip)
> > > {
> > > - struct page_ext *page_ext = lookup_page_ext(page);
> > > + int i, count;
> > > +
> > > + if (!trace->nr_entries)
> > > + return false;
> > > +
> > > + for (i = 0, count = 0; i < trace->nr_entries; i++) {
> > > + if (trace->entries[i] == ip && ++count == 2)
> > > + return true;
> > > + }
> >
> > This would deserve a comment I guess. Btw, don't we have a better and
> > more robust way to detect the recursion? Per task_struct flag or
> > something like that?
>
> Okay. I will add a comment.
>
> I already considered task_struct flag and I know that it is a better
> solution. But, I don't think that this debugging feature deserve to
> use such precious flag. This implementation isn't efficient but I
> think that it is at least robust.
I guess there are many holes in task_structs where a single bool would
comfortably fit in. But I do not consider this to be a large issue. It
is just the above looks quite ugly.
> > [...]
> > > +static noinline depot_stack_handle_t save_stack(gfp_t flags)
> > > +{
> > > + unsigned long entries[PAGE_OWNER_STACK_DEPTH];
> > > struct stack_trace trace = {
> > > .nr_entries = 0,
> > > - .max_entries = ARRAY_SIZE(page_ext->trace_entries),
> > > - .entries = &page_ext->trace_entries[0],
> > > - .skip = 3,
> > > + .entries = entries,
> > > + .max_entries = PAGE_OWNER_STACK_DEPTH,
> > > + .skip = 0
> > > };
> > [...]
> > > void __dump_page_owner(struct page *page)
> > > {
> > > struct page_ext *page_ext = lookup_page_ext(page);
> > > + unsigned long entries[PAGE_OWNER_STACK_DEPTH];
> >
> > This is worrying because of the excessive stack consumption while we
> > might be in a deep call chain already. Can we preallocate a hash table
> > for few buffers when the feature is enabled? This would require locking
> > of course but chances are that contention wouldn't be that large.
>
> Make sense but I'm not sure that excessive stack consumption would
> cause real problem. For example, if direct reclaim is triggered during
> allocation, it may go more deeper than this path.
Do we really consume 512B of stack during reclaim. That sounds more than
worrying to me.
> I'd like to postpone to handle this issue until stack breakage is
> reported due to this feature.
I dunno, but I would expect that a debugging feature wouldn't cause
problems like that. It is more than sad when you cannot debug your
issue just because of the stack consumption...
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-05-04 9:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-05-03 5:22 [PATCH 0/6] mm/page_owner: use tackdepot " js1304
2016-05-03 5:22 ` [PATCH 1/6] mm/compaction: split freepages without holding the zone lock js1304
2016-05-10 14:56 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-05-12 2:51 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-05-03 5:23 ` [PATCH 2/6] mm/page_owner: initialize page owner " js1304
2016-05-10 15:00 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-05-03 5:23 ` [PATCH 3/6] mm/page_owner: copy last_migrate_reason in copy_page_owner() js1304
2016-05-10 15:13 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-05-12 2:58 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-05-12 6:48 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-05-03 5:23 ` [PATCH 4/6] mm/page_owner: introduce split_page_owner and replace manual handling js1304
2016-05-10 15:14 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-05-03 5:23 ` [PATCH 5/6] tools/vm/page_owner: increase temporary buffer size js1304
2016-05-03 5:23 ` [PATCH 6/6] mm/page_owner: use stackdepot to store stacktrace js1304
2016-05-03 8:53 ` Michal Hocko
2016-05-04 2:14 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-05-04 2:35 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-05-04 9:23 ` Michal Hocko
2016-05-04 15:31 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-05-04 9:21 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2016-05-04 15:30 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-05-04 15:45 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-05-04 19:41 ` Michal Hocko
2016-05-04 19:40 ` Michal Hocko
2016-05-10 7:07 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-05-10 8:57 ` Michal Hocko
2016-05-12 11:57 ` Vlastimil Babka
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