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From: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
To: mhocko@kernel.org
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, rientjes@google.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] mm, oom_reaper: clear TIF_MEMDIE for all tasks queued for oom_reaper
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 20:59:51 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201604182059.JFB76917.OFJMHFLSOtQVFO@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160417115422.GA21757@dhcp22.suse.cz>

Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Sat 16-04-16 11:51:11, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> > Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > On Thu 07-04-16 20:55:34, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> > > > Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > > The first obvious one is when the oom victim clears its mm and gets
> > > > > stuck later on. oom_reaper would back of on find_lock_task_mm returning
> > > > > NULL. We can safely try to clear TIF_MEMDIE in this case because such a
> > > > > task would be ignored by the oom killer anyway. The flag would be
> > > > > cleared by that time already most of the time anyway.
> > > > 
> > > > I didn't understand what this wants to tell. The OOM victim will clear
> > > > TIF_MEMDIE as soon as it sets current->mm = NULL.
> > > 
> > > No it clears the flag _after_ it returns from mmput. There is no
> > > guarantee it won't get stuck somewhere on the way there - e.g. exit_aio
> > > waits for completion and who knows what else might get stuck.
> > 
> > OK. Then, I think an OOM livelock scenario shown below is possible.
> > 
> >  (1) First OOM victim (where mm->mm_users == 1) is selected by the first
> >      round of out_of_memory() call.
> > 
> >  (2) The OOM reaper calls atomic_inc_not_zero(&mm->mm_users).
> > 
> >  (3) The OOM victim calls mmput() from exit_mm() from do_exit().
> >      mmput() returns immediately because atomic_dec_and_test(&mm->mm_users)
> >      returns false because of (2).
> > 
> >  (4) The OOM reaper reaps memory and then calls mmput().
> >      mmput() calls exit_aio() etc. and waits for completion because
> >      atomic_dec_and_test(&mm->mm_users) is now true.
> > 
> >  (5) Second OOM victim (which is the parent of the first OOM victim)
> >      is selected by the next round of out_of_memory() call.
> > 
> >  (6) The OOM reaper is waiting for completion of the first OOM victim's
> >      memory while the second OOM victim is waiting for the OOM reaper to
> >      reap memory.
> > 
> > Where is the guarantee that exit_aio() etc. called from mmput() by the
> > OOM reaper does not depend on memory allocation (i.e. the OOM reaper is
> > not blocked forever inside __oom_reap_task())?
> 
> You should realize that the mmput is called _after_ we have reclaimed
> victim's address space. So there should be some memory freed by that
> time which reduce the likelyhood of a lockup due to memory allocation
> request if it is really needed for exit_aio.

Not always true. mmput() is called when down_read_trylock(&mm->mmap_sem) failed.
It is possible that the OOM victim was about to call up_write(&mm->mmap_sem) when
down_read_trylock(&mm->mmap_sem) failed, and it is possible that the OOM victim
runs until returning from mmput() from exit_mm() from do_exit() when the OOM
reaper was preempted between down_read_trylock(&mm->mmap_sem) and mmput().
Under such race, the OOM reaper will call mmput() without reclaiming the OOM
victim's address space.

> 
> But you have a good point here. We want to strive for robustness of
> oom_reaper as much as possible. We have dropped the munlock patch because
> of the robustness so I guess we want this to be fixed as well. The
> reason for blocking might be different from memory pressure I guess.

The reality of race/dependency is more complicated than we can imagine.

> 
> Here is what should work - I have only compile tested it. I will prepare
> the proper patch later this week with other oom reaper patches or after
> I come back from LSF/MM.

Excuse me, but is system_wq suitable for queuing operations which may take
unpredictable duration to flush?

  system_wq is the one used by schedule[_delayed]_work[_on]().
  Multi-CPU multi-threaded.  There are users which expect relatively
  short queue flush time.  Don't queue works which can run for too
  long.

Many users including SysRq-f depend on system_wq being flushed shortly. We
haven't guaranteed that SysRq-f can always fire and select a different OOM
victim, but you proposed always clearing TIF_MEMDIE without thinking the
possibility of the OOM victim with mmap_sem held for write being stuck at
unkillable wait.

I wonder about your definition of "robustness". You are almost always missing
the worst scenario. You are trying to manage OOM without defining default:
label in a switch statement. I don't think your approach is robust.

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-18 12:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-06 14:13 [PATCH 0/3] oom reaper follow ups v1 Michal Hocko
2016-04-06 14:13 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm, oom: move GFP_NOFS check to out_of_memory Michal Hocko
2016-04-06 14:13 ` [PATCH 2/3] oom, oom_reaper: Try to reap tasks which skip regular OOM killer path Michal Hocko
2016-04-07 11:38   ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-04-08 11:19     ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-04-08 11:50       ` Michal Hocko
2016-04-09  4:39         ` [PATCH 2/3] oom, oom_reaper: Try to reap tasks which skipregular " Tetsuo Handa
2016-04-11 12:02           ` Michal Hocko
2016-04-11 13:26             ` [PATCH 2/3] oom, oom_reaper: Try to reap tasks which skip regular " Tetsuo Handa
2016-04-11 13:43               ` Michal Hocko
2016-04-13 11:08                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-04-08 11:34     ` Michal Hocko
2016-04-08 13:14   ` Michal Hocko
2016-04-06 14:13 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm, oom_reaper: clear TIF_MEMDIE for all tasks queued for oom_reaper Michal Hocko
2016-04-07 11:55   ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-04-08 11:34     ` Michal Hocko
2016-04-16  2:51       ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-04-17 11:54         ` Michal Hocko
2016-04-18 11:59           ` Tetsuo Handa [this message]
2016-04-19 14:17             ` Michal Hocko
2016-04-19 15:07               ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-04-19 19:32                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-04-08 13:07   ` Michal Hocko

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