linux-mm.kvack.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm,oom: Clarify reason to kill other threads sharing the vitctim's memory.
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 13:31:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160414113108.GE2850@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1460631391-8628-2-git-send-email-penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>

On Thu 14-04-16 19:56:31, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> Current comment for "Kill all user processes sharing victim->mm in other
> thread groups" is not clear that doing so is a best effort avoidance.
> 
> I tried to update that logic along with TIF_MEMDIE for several times
> but not yet accepted. Therefore, this patch changes only comment so that
> we can apply now.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
> ---
>  mm/oom_kill.c | 29 ++++++++++++++++++++++-------
>  1 file changed, 22 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/mm/oom_kill.c b/mm/oom_kill.c
> index e78818d..43d0002 100644
> --- a/mm/oom_kill.c
> +++ b/mm/oom_kill.c
> @@ -814,13 +814,28 @@ void oom_kill_process(struct oom_control *oc, struct task_struct *p,
>  	task_unlock(victim);
>  
>  	/*
> -	 * Kill all user processes sharing victim->mm in other thread groups, if
> -	 * any.  They don't get access to memory reserves, though, to avoid
> -	 * depletion of all memory.  This prevents mm->mmap_sem livelock when an
           ^^^^^^^^^
this was an useful information which you have dropped. Why?

> -	 * oom killed thread cannot exit because it requires the semaphore and
> -	 * its contended by another thread trying to allocate memory itself.
> -	 * That thread will now get access to memory reserves since it has a
> -	 * pending fatal signal.
> +	 * Kill all user processes sharing victim->mm in other thread groups,
> +	 * if any. This reduces possibility of hitting mm->mmap_sem livelock
> +	 * when an OOM victim thread cannot exit because it requires the
> +	 * mm->mmap_sem for read at exit_mm() while another thread is trying
> +	 * to allocate memory with that mm->mmap_sem held for write.
> +	 *
> +	 * Any thread except the victim thread itself which is killed by
> +	 * this heuristic does not get access to memory reserves as of now,
> +	 * but it will get access to memory reserves by calling out_of_memory()
> +	 * or mem_cgroup_out_of_memory() since it has a pending fatal signal.
> +	 *
> +	 * Note that this heuristic is not perfect because it is possible that
> +	 * a thread which shares victim->mm and is doing memory allocation with
> +	 * victim->mm->mmap_sem held for write is marked as OOM_SCORE_ADJ_MIN.

Is this really helpful? I would rather be explicit that we _do not care_
about these configurations. It is just PITA maintain and it doesn't make
any sense. So rather than trying to document all the weird thing that
might happen I would welcome a warning "mm shared with OOM_SCORE_ADJ_MIN
task. Something is broken in your configuration!"

> +	 * Also, it is possible that a thread which shares victim->mm and is
> +	 * doing memory allocation with victim->mm->mmap_sem held for write
> +	 * (possibly the victim thread itself which got TIF_MEMDIE) is blocked
> +	 * at unkillable locks from direct reclaim paths because nothing
> +	 * prevents TIF_MEMDIE threads which already started direct reclaim
> +	 * paths from being blocked at unkillable locks. In such cases, the
> +	 * OOM reaper will be unable to reap victim->mm and we will need to
> +	 * select a different OOM victim.

This is a more general problem and not related to this particular code.
Whenever we select a victim and call mark_oom_victim we hope it will
eventually get out of its kernel code path (unless it was running in the
userspace) so I am not sure this is placed properly.

>  	 */
>  	rcu_read_lock();
>  	for_each_process(p) {
> -- 
> 1.8.3.1

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

--
To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in
the body to majordomo@kvack.org.  For more info on Linux MM,
see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ .
Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@kvack.org"> email@kvack.org </a>

  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-14 11:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-14 10:56 [PATCH] mm,oom_reaper: Use try_oom_reaper() for reapability test Tetsuo Handa
2016-04-14 10:56 ` [PATCH] mm,oom: Clarify reason to kill other threads sharing the vitctim's memory Tetsuo Handa
2016-04-14 11:31   ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2016-04-14 15:03     ` [PATCH] mm,oom: Clarify reason to kill other threads sharing thevitctim's memory Tetsuo Handa
2016-04-14 15:18       ` Michal Hocko
2016-04-14 21:59         ` [PATCH] mm,oom: Clarify reason to kill other threads sharing the vitctim's memory Tetsuo Handa
2016-04-14 11:21 ` [PATCH] mm,oom_reaper: Use try_oom_reaper() for reapability test Michal Hocko
2016-04-14 11:34   ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-04-14 12:01     ` Michal Hocko
2016-04-14 12:34       ` Michal Hocko
2016-04-14 14:01         ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-04-14 14:30           ` Michal Hocko
2016-04-15 12:11   ` Tetsuo Handa

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20160414113108.GE2850@dhcp22.suse.cz \
    --to=mhocko@kernel.org \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=oleg@redhat.com \
    --cc=penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp \
    --cc=rientjes@google.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox