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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, rientjes@google.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] mm, oom: move GFP_NOFS check to out_of_memory
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 16:22:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160329142216.GE4466@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201603292245.AAC12437.JFLMQVtSOHFFOO@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>

On Tue 29-03-16 22:45:40, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> Michal Hocko wrote:
> > From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> > 
> > __alloc_pages_may_oom is the central place to decide when the
> > out_of_memory should be invoked. This is a good approach for most checks
> > there because they are page allocator specific and the allocation fails
> > right after.
> > 
> > The notable exception is GFP_NOFS context which is faking
> > did_some_progress and keep the page allocator looping even though there
> > couldn't have been any progress from the OOM killer. This patch doesn't
> > change this behavior because we are not ready to allow those allocation
> > requests to fail yet. Instead __GFP_FS check is moved down to
> > out_of_memory and prevent from OOM victim selection there. There are
> > two reasons for that
> > 	- OOM notifiers might release some memory even from this context
> > 	  as none of the registered notifier seems to be FS related
> > 	- this might help a dying thread to get an access to memory
> >           reserves and move on which will make the behavior more
> >           consistent with the case when the task gets killed from a
> >           different context.
> 
> Allowing !__GFP_FS allocations to get TIF_MEMDIE by calling the shortcuts in
> out_of_memory() would be fine. But I don't like the direction you want to go.
> 
> I don't like failing !__GFP_FS allocations without selecting OOM victim
> ( http://lkml.kernel.org/r/201603252054.ADH30264.OJQFFLMOHFSOVt@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp ).

I didn't get to read and digest that email yet but from a quick glance
it doesn't seem to be directly related to this patch. Even if we decide
that __GFP_FS vs. OOM killer logic is flawed for some reason then would
build on top as granting the access to memory reserves is not against
it.

> Also, I suggested removing all shortcuts by setting TIF_MEMDIE from oom_kill_process()
> ( http://lkml.kernel.org/r/1458529634-5951-1-git-send-email-penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp ).

I personally do not like this much. I believe we have already tried to
explain why we have (some of) those shortcuts. They might be too
optimistic and there is a room for improvements for sure but I am not
convinced we can get rid of them that easily.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-29 14:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-29 13:27 Michal Hocko
2016-03-29 13:45 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-29 14:22   ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2016-03-29 15:29     ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-29 14:14 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-29 22:13 ` David Rientjes
2016-03-30  9:47   ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-30 11:46     ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-30 12:11       ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-31 11:56         ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-31 15:11           ` Michal Hocko
2016-04-05 11:12 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-04-06 10:28   ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-04-06 12:41   ` Michal Hocko

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