linux-mm.kvack.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/3] oom, sysrq: Skip over oom victims and killed tasks
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 15:37:21 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160115153721.7d363aef@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160115101218.GB14112@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:12:18 +0100
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:

> On Thu 14-01-16 13:51:16, David Rientjes wrote:
> > I think it's time to kill sysrq+F and I'll send those two patches
> > unless there is a usecase I'm not aware of.
> 
> I have described one in the part you haven't quoted here. Let me repeat:
> : Your system might be trashing to the point you are not able to log in
> : and resolve the situation in a reasonable time yet you are still not
> : OOM. sysrq+f is your only choice then.
> 
> Could you clarify why it is better to ditch a potentially usefull
> emergency tool rather than to make it work reliably and predictably?

Even if it doesn't work reliably and predictably it is *still* better
than removing it as it works currently. Today we have "might save you a
reboot", the removal turns it into "you'll have to reboot". That's a
regression.

Alan

--
To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in
the body to majordomo@kvack.org.  For more info on Linux MM,
see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ .
Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@kvack.org"> email@kvack.org </a>

  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-15 15:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-12 21:00 [RFC 0/3] oom: few enahancements Michal Hocko
2016-01-12 21:00 ` [RFC 1/3] oom, sysrq: Skip over oom victims and killed tasks Michal Hocko
2016-01-13  0:41   ` David Rientjes
2016-01-13  9:30     ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-14  0:38       ` David Rientjes
2016-01-14 11:00         ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-14 21:51           ` David Rientjes
2016-01-15 10:12             ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-15 15:37               ` One Thousand Gnomes [this message]
2016-01-19 23:01                 ` David Rientjes
2016-01-19 22:57               ` David Rientjes
2016-01-20  9:49                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-21  0:01                   ` David Rientjes
2016-01-21  9:15                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-12 21:00 ` [RFC 2/3] oom: Do not sacrifice already OOM killed children Michal Hocko
2016-01-13  0:45   ` David Rientjes
2016-01-13  9:36     ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-14  0:42       ` David Rientjes
2016-01-12 21:00 ` [RFC 3/3] oom: Do not try to sacrifice small children Michal Hocko
2016-01-13  0:51   ` David Rientjes
2016-01-13  9:40     ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-14  0:43       ` David Rientjes

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20160115153721.7d363aef@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk \
    --to=gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=mhocko@kernel.org \
    --cc=penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp \
    --cc=rientjes@google.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox