From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
Hillf Danton <hillf.zj@alibaba-inc.com>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] OOM detection rework v4
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 15:58:44 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151216155844.d1c3a5f35bc98072a80f939e@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1450203586-10959-1-git-send-email-mhocko@kernel.org>
On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 19:19:43 +0100 Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> ...
>
> * base kernel
> $ grep "Killed process" base-oom-run1.log | tail -n1
> [ 211.824379] Killed process 3086 (mem_eater) total-vm:85852kB, anon-rss:81996kB, file-rss:332kB, shmem-rss:0kB
> $ grep "Killed process" base-oom-run2.log | tail -n1
> [ 157.188326] Killed process 3094 (mem_eater) total-vm:85852kB, anon-rss:81996kB, file-rss:368kB, shmem-rss:0kB
>
> $ grep "invoked oom-killer" base-oom-run1.log | wc -l
> 78
> $ grep "invoked oom-killer" base-oom-run2.log | wc -l
> 76
>
> The number of OOM invocations is consistent with my last measurements
> but the runtime is way too different (it took 800+s).
I'm seeing 211 seconds vs 157 seconds? If so, that's not toooo bad. I
assume the 800+s is sum-across-multiple-CPUs? Given that all the CPUs
are pounding away at the same data and the same disk, that doesn't
sound like very interesting info - the overall elapsed time is the
thing to look at in this case.
> One thing that
> could have skewed results was that I was tail -f the serial log on the
> host system to see the progress. I have stopped doing that. The results
> are more consistent now but still too different from the last time.
> This is really weird so I've retested with the last 4.2 mmotm again and
> I am getting consistent ~220s which is really close to the above. If I
> apply the WQ vmstat patch on top I am getting close to 160s so the stale
> vmstat counters made a difference which is to be expected. I have a new
> SSD in my laptop which migh have made a difference but I wouldn't expect
> it to be that large.
>
> $ grep "DMA32.*all_unreclaimable? no" base-oom-run1.log | wc -l
> 4
> $ grep "DMA32.*all_unreclaimable? no" base-oom-run2.log | wc -l
> 1
>
> * patched kernel
> $ grep "Killed process" patched-oom-run1.log | tail -n1
> [ 341.164930] Killed process 3099 (mem_eater) total-vm:85852kB, anon-rss:82000kB, file-rss:336kB, shmem-rss:0kB
> $ grep "Killed process" patched-oom-run2.log | tail -n1
> [ 349.111539] Killed process 3082 (mem_eater) total-vm:85852kB, anon-rss:81996kB, file-rss:4kB, shmem-rss:0kB
Even better.
> $ grep "invoked oom-killer" patched-oom-run1.log | wc -l
> 78
> $ grep "invoked oom-killer" patched-oom-run2.log | wc -l
> 77
>
> $ grep "DMA32.*all_unreclaimable? no" patched-oom-run1.log | wc -l
> 1
> $ grep "DMA32.*all_unreclaimable? no" patched-oom-run2.log | wc -l
> 0
>
> So the number of OOM killer invocation is the same but the overall
> runtime of the test was much longer with the patched kernel. This can be
> attributed to more retries in general. The results from the base kernel
> are quite inconsitent and I think that consistency is better here.
It's hard to say how long declaration of oom should take. Correctness
comes first. But what is "correct"? oom isn't a binary condition -
there's a chance that if we keep churning away for another 5 minutes
we'll be able to satisfy this allocation (but probably not the next
one). There are tradeoffs between promptness-of-declaring-oom and
exhaustiveness-in-avoiding-it.
>
> 2) 2 writers again with 10s of run and then 10 mem_eaters to consume as much
> memory as possible without triggering the OOM killer. This required a lot
> of tuning but I've considered 3 consecutive runs without OOM as a success.
"a lot of tuning" sounds bad. It means that the tuning settings you
have now for a particular workload on a particular machine will be
wrong for other workloads and machines. uh-oh.
> ...
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Thread overview: 152+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-12-15 18:19 Michal Hocko
2015-12-15 18:19 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm, oom: rework oom detection Michal Hocko
2016-01-14 22:58 ` David Rientjes
2016-01-16 1:07 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-01-19 22:48 ` David Rientjes
2016-01-20 11:13 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-01-20 13:13 ` Michal Hocko
2016-04-04 8:23 ` Vladimir Davydov
2016-04-04 9:42 ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-15 18:19 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: throttle on IO only when there are too many dirty and writeback pages Michal Hocko
2016-03-17 11:35 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-17 12:01 ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-15 18:19 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm: use watermak checks for __GFP_REPEAT high order allocations Michal Hocko
2015-12-16 23:35 ` [PATCH 0/3] OOM detection rework v4 Andrew Morton
2015-12-18 12:12 ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-16 23:58 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2015-12-18 13:15 ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-18 16:35 ` Johannes Weiner
2015-12-24 12:41 ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-12-28 12:08 ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-12-28 14:13 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-01-06 12:44 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-01-08 12:37 ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-29 16:32 ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-30 15:05 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-01-02 15:47 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-01-20 12:24 ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-27 23:18 ` David Rientjes
2016-01-28 21:19 ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-29 16:27 ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-28 20:40 ` [PATCH 4/3] mm, oom: drop the last allocation attempt before out_of_memory Michal Hocko
2016-01-28 21:36 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-01-28 23:19 ` David Rientjes
2016-01-28 23:51 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-01-29 10:39 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-01-29 15:32 ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-30 12:18 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-01-29 15:23 ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-29 15:24 ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-28 21:19 ` [PATCH 5/3] mm, vmscan: make zone_reclaimable_pages more precise Michal Hocko
2016-01-28 23:20 ` David Rientjes
2016-01-29 3:41 ` Hillf Danton
2016-01-29 10:35 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-01-29 15:17 ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-29 21:30 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-02-03 13:27 ` [PATCH 0/3] OOM detection rework v4 Michal Hocko
2016-02-03 22:58 ` David Rientjes
2016-02-04 12:57 ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-04 13:10 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-02-04 13:39 ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-04 14:24 ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-07 4:09 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-02-15 20:06 ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-16 13:10 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-02-16 15:19 ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-25 3:47 ` Hugh Dickins
2016-02-25 6:48 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-25 9:17 ` Hillf Danton
2016-02-25 9:27 ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-25 9:48 ` Hillf Danton
2016-02-25 11:02 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-25 9:23 ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-26 6:32 ` Hugh Dickins
2016-02-26 7:54 ` Hillf Danton
2016-02-26 9:24 ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-26 10:27 ` Hillf Danton
2016-02-26 13:49 ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-26 9:33 ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-29 21:02 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-02 2:19 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-02 9:50 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-02 13:32 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-02 14:06 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-02 14:34 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-03 9:26 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-03 10:29 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-03 14:10 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-03 15:25 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-04 5:23 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-04 15:15 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-04 17:39 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-07 5:23 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-03 15:50 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-03 16:26 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-04 7:10 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-02 15:01 ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-07 16:08 ` [PATCH] mm, oom: protect !costly allocations some more (was: Re: [PATCH 0/3] OOM detection rework v4) Michal Hocko
2016-03-08 3:51 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-08 9:08 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-08 9:24 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-08 9:24 ` [PATCH] mm, oom: protect !costly allocations some more Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-08 9:32 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-08 9:46 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-08 9:52 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-08 10:10 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-08 11:12 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-08 12:22 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-08 12:29 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-08 9:58 ` [PATCH] mm, oom: protect !costly allocations some more (was: Re: [PATCH 0/3] OOM detection rework v4) Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-08 13:57 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-08 10:36 ` Hugh Dickins
2016-03-08 13:42 ` [PATCH 0/2] oom rework: high order enahncements Michal Hocko
2016-03-08 13:42 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm, compaction: change COMPACT_ constants into enum Michal Hocko
2016-03-08 14:19 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-09 3:55 ` Hillf Danton
2016-03-08 13:42 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm, compaction: cover all compaction mode in compact_zone Michal Hocko
2016-03-08 14:22 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-09 3:57 ` Hillf Danton
2016-03-08 13:42 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm, oom: protect !costly allocations some more Michal Hocko
2016-03-08 14:34 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-08 14:48 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-08 15:03 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-09 11:11 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-09 14:07 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-11 12:17 ` Hugh Dickins
2016-03-11 13:06 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-11 19:08 ` Hugh Dickins
2016-03-14 16:21 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-08 15:19 ` [PATCH] mm, oom: protect !costly allocations some more (was: Re: [PATCH 0/3] OOM detection rework v4) Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-08 16:05 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-08 17:03 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-09 10:41 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-11 14:53 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-11 15:20 ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-29 20:35 ` [PATCH 0/3] OOM detection rework v4 Michal Hocko
2016-03-01 7:29 ` Hugh Dickins
2016-03-01 13:38 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-01 14:40 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-01 18:14 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-02 2:55 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-02 12:37 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-02 14:06 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-02 12:24 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-02 13:00 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-02 13:22 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-02 2:28 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-02 12:39 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-03 9:54 ` Hugh Dickins
2016-03-03 12:32 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-03 20:57 ` Hugh Dickins
2016-03-04 7:41 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-04 7:53 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-04 12:28 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-11 10:45 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-11 13:08 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-11 13:32 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-11 15:28 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-11 16:49 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-11 17:00 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-11 17:20 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-12 4:08 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-13 14:41 ` Tetsuo Handa
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