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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Dave Gordon <david.s.gordon@intel.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, "Goel,
	Akash" <akash.goel@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 1/2] mm: Export nr_swap_pages
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 12:22:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151208112225.GB25800@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151207191346.GA3872@cmpxchg.org>

On Mon 07-12-15 14:13:46, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 07, 2015 at 06:10:00PM +0000, Dave Gordon wrote:
> > Exporting random uncontrolled variables from the kernel to loaded modules is
> > not really considered best practice. It would be preferable to provide an
> > accessor function - which is just what the declaration says we have; the
> > implementation as a static inline (and/or macro) is what causes the problem
> > here.
> 
> No, what causes the problem is thinking we can't trust in-kernel code.

This is not about the trust. It is about a clear API and separation.

> If somebody screws up, we can fix it easily enough. Sure, we shouldn't
> be laying traps and create easy-to-misuse interfaces, but that's not
> what's happening here. There is no reason to add function overhead to
> what should be a single 'mov' instruction.

The mere fact that the current implementation is a simple atomic_long_read
is a detail and not important for the API. The function is not used
in any hot path where a single function call overhead would be a
performance killer. Exporting implementation details to random users
tends to add maintenance burden in future.

I think it is natural to export symbols which are consumed by modules
and that will be get_nr_swap_pages(). I do not even understand the
resistance against that. Anyway I am not going to argue about it more.
I have raised my review comment and leave the decision to Chris/Andrew.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-12-08 11:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-04 15:58 Chris Wilson
2015-12-04 15:58 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] drm/i915: Disable shrinker for non-swapped backed objects Chris Wilson
2015-12-04 16:11   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-12-10  9:34   ` Daniel Vetter
2015-12-04 16:09 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mm: Export nr_swap_pages Johannes Weiner
2015-12-10  9:32   ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2015-12-23 22:04     ` Johannes Weiner
2015-12-23 22:26       ` Andrew Morton
2016-01-05 10:05         ` Daniel Vetter
2015-12-07 13:48 ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-07 16:48   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-12-07 17:04     ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-07 18:02       ` Johannes Weiner
2015-12-07 18:10     ` [Intel-gfx] " Dave Gordon
2015-12-07 19:13       ` Johannes Weiner
2015-12-08 11:19         ` Dave Gordon
2015-12-08 11:22         ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2015-12-17 18:15           ` [PATCH v3] mm: Export {__}get_nr_swap_pages() Dave Gordon
2015-12-17 19:45             ` Johannes Weiner

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