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From: Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/vmstat: retrieve more accurate vmstat value
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 13:14:11 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151203041410.GA1495@js1304-P5Q-DELUXE> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151126015252.GA13138@js1304-P5Q-DELUXE>

On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 10:52:52AM +0900, Joonsoo Kim wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 10:04:44AM -0600, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> > > Although vmstat values aren't designed for accuracy, these are already
> > > used by some sensitive places so it is better to be more accurate.
> > 
> > The design is to sacrifice accuracy and the time the updates occur for
> > performance reasons. This is not the purpose the counters were designed
> > for. If you put these demands on the vmstat then you will get complex
> > convoluted code and compromise performance.
> 
> I understand design decision, but, it is better to get value as much
> as accurate if there is no performance problem. My patch would not
> cause much performance degradation because it is just adding one
> this_cpu_read().
> 
> Consider about following example. Current implementation returns
> interesting output if someone do following things.
> 
> v1 = zone_page_state(XXX);
> mod_zone_page_state(XXX, 1);
> v2 = zone_page_state(XXX);
> 
> v2 would be same with v1 in most of cases even if we already update
> it.
> 
> This situation could occurs in page allocation path and others. If
> some task try to allocate many pages, then watermark check returns
> same values until updating vmstat even if some freepage are allocated.
> There are some adjustments for this imprecision but why not do it become
> accurate? I think that this change is reasonable trade-off.
> 
Christoph, any comment?

Thanks.

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-03  4:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-24  6:22 Joonsoo Kim
2015-11-24 15:36 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-11-25  2:57   ` Joonsoo Kim
2015-11-25 16:04     ` Christoph Lameter
2015-11-25 18:03       ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-25 18:26         ` Christoph Lameter
2015-11-26  1:52       ` Joonsoo Kim
2015-12-03  4:14         ` Joonsoo Kim [this message]
2016-01-27 23:13         ` David Rientjes
2016-01-28  5:08           ` Joonsoo Kim
2015-11-25 12:00 ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-25 13:43   ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-11-25 13:47     ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-26  1:56   ` Joonsoo Kim
2015-11-26  5:03     ` vinayak menon
2015-11-26 15:03     ` Michal Hocko

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