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From: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Cc: mhocko@kernel.org, cl@linux.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	rientjes@google.com, oleg@redhat.com, kwalker@redhat.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	vdavydov@parallels.com, skozina@redhat.com, mgorman@suse.de,
	riel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm,vmscan: Use accurate values for zone_reclaimable() checks
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 14:43:25 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151103194325.GB5749@mtj.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201511031132.GBB09374.JQFOVSFLOtHFMO@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>

Hello, Tetsuo.

On Tue, Nov 03, 2015 at 11:32:06AM +0900, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> Tejun Heo wrote:
> >                                                                  If
> > the possibility of sysrq getting stuck behind concurrency management
> > is an issue, queueing them on an unbound or highpri workqueue should
> > be good enough.
> 
> Regarding SysRq-f, we could do like below. Though I think that converting
> the OOM killer into a dedicated kernel thread would allow more things to do
> (e.g. Oleg's memory zapping code, my timeout based next victim selection).

I'm not sure doing anything to sysrq-f is warranted.  If workqueue
can't make forward progress due to memory exhaustion, OOM will be
triggered anyway.  Getting stuck behind concurrency management isn't
that different a failure mode from getting stuck behind busy loop with
preemption off.  We should just plug them at the source.  If
necessary, what we can do is adding stall watchdog (can prolly
combined with the usual watchdog) so that it can better point out the
culprit.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-03 19:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-21 12:26 Tetsuo Handa
2015-10-21 13:03 ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-21 14:22 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-21 14:33   ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-21 14:49     ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-21 14:55       ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-21 15:39         ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-10-21 17:16         ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-22 11:37           ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-10-22 13:39             ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-22 14:09               ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-22 14:21                 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-22 14:23                   ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-22 14:24                     ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-22 14:25                       ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-22 14:33                         ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-22 14:41                           ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-22 15:14                             ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-23  4:26                               ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-02 15:01                                 ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-02 19:20                                   ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-03  2:32                                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-11-03 19:43                                       ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2015-11-05 14:59                                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-11-05 17:45                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2015-11-06  0:16                                       ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-11 15:44                                         ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-11 16:03                                           ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-22 14:22                 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-22 15:06                 ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-22 15:15                   ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-22 15:33                     ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-23  8:37                       ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-23 11:43                         ` Make vmstat deferrable again (was Re: [PATCH] mm,vmscan: Use accurate values for zone_reclaimable() checks) Christoph Lameter
2015-10-23 12:07                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-10-23 14:12                             ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-23 14:49                               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-10-23 16:10                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-22 15:35                     ` [PATCH] mm,vmscan: Use accurate values for zone_reclaimable() checks Michal Hocko
2015-10-22 15:37                       ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-22 15:49                         ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-22 18:42                           ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-22 21:42                             ` [PATCH] mm,vmscan: Use accurate values for zone_reclaimable()checks Tetsuo Handa
2015-10-22 22:47                               ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-23  8:36                               ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-23 10:37                                 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-23  8:33                             ` [PATCH] mm,vmscan: Use accurate values for zone_reclaimable() checks Michal Hocko
2015-10-23 10:36                               ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-23 11:11                                 ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-23 12:25                                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-10-23 18:23                                     ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-25 10:52                                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-10-25 22:47                                         ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-27  9:22                                         ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-27 10:55                                           ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-27 12:07                                             ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-23 18:21                                   ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-27  9:16                                     ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-27 10:52                                       ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-27 11:07                                       ` [PATCH] mm,vmscan: Use accurate values for zone_reclaimable()checks Tetsuo Handa
2015-10-27 11:30                                         ` Tejun Heo

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