From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Nikolay Borisov <kernel@kyup.com>
Cc: Hillf Danton <hillf.zj@alibaba-inc.com>,
'linux-kernel' <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
SiteGround Operations <operations@siteground.com>,
vbabka@suse.cz, gilad@benyossef.com, mgorman@suse.de,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Marian Marinov <mm@1h.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] ext4: Fix possible deadlock with local interrupts disabled and page-draining IPI
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 15:40:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151012134020.GA21302@quack.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <561774D2.3050002@kyup.com>
On Fri 09-10-15 11:03:30, Nikolay Borisov wrote:
> On 10/09/2015 10:37 AM, Hillf Danton wrote:
> >>>> @@ -109,8 +109,8 @@ static void ext4_finish_bio(struct bio *bio)
> >>>> if (bio->bi_error)
> >>>> buffer_io_error(bh);
> >>>> } while ((bh = bh->b_this_page) != head);
> >>>> - bit_spin_unlock(BH_Uptodate_Lock, &head->b_state);
> >>>> local_irq_restore(flags);
> >>>
> >>> What if it takes 100ms to unlock after IRQ restored?
> >>
> >> I'm not sure I understand in what direction you are going? Care to
> >> elaborate?
> >>
> > Your change introduces extra time cost the lock waiter has to pay in
> > the case that irq happens before the lock is released.
>
> [CC filesystem and mm people. For reference the thread starts here:
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/2056996 ]
>
> Right, I see what you mean and it's a good point but when doing the
> patches I was striving for correctness and starting a discussion, hence
> the RFC. In any case I'd personally choose correctness over performance
> always ;).
>
> As I'm not an fs/ext4 expert and have added the relevant parties (please
> use reply-all from now on so that the thread is not being cut in the
> middle) who will be able to say whether it impact is going to be that
> big. I guess in this particular code path worrying about this is prudent
> as writeback sounds like a heavily used path.
>
> Maybe the problem should be approached from a different angle e.g.
> drain_all_pages and its reliance on the fact that the IPI will always be
> delivered in some finite amount of time? But what if a cpu with disabled
> interrupts is waiting on the task issuing the IPI?
So I have looked through your patch and also original report (thread starts
here: https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/10/8/341) and IMHO one question hasn't
been properly answered yet: Who is holding BH_Uptodate_Lock we are spinning
on? You have suggested in https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/10/8/464 that it was
__block_write_full_page_endio() call but that cannot really be the case.
BH_Uptodate_Lock is used only in IO completion handlers -
end_buffer_async_read, end_buffer_async_write, ext4_finish_bio. So there
really should be some end_io function running on some other CPU which holds
BH_Uptodate_Lock for that buffer.
BTW: I suppose the filesystem uses 4k blocksize, doesn't it?
Honza
> >>>> + bit_spin_unlock(BH_Uptodate_Lock, &head->b_state);
> >>>> if (!under_io) {
> >>>> #ifdef CONFIG_EXT4_FS_ENCRYPTION
> >>>> if (ctx)
> >>>> --
> >>>> 2.5.0
> >>>
> >
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2015-10-09 8:03 ` Nikolay Borisov
2015-10-12 13:40 ` Jan Kara [this message]
2015-10-12 14:51 ` Nikolay Borisov
2015-10-13 8:15 ` Jan Kara
2015-10-13 10:37 ` Nikolay Borisov
2015-10-13 13:14 ` Jan Kara
2015-10-14 9:02 ` Nikolay Borisov
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