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From: Eric B Munson <emunson@akamai.com>
To: Konstantin Khlebnikov <koct9i@gmail.com>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 3/6] mm: Introduce VM_LOCKONFAULT
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:55:03 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150824155503.GB17005@akamai.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALYGNiMO+bHCJxqC_f__iS_OgjxTWDUXF4XWVKdS4jGLenWX=g@mail.gmail.com>

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On Mon, 24 Aug 2015, Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Eric B Munson <emunson@akamai.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 24 Aug 2015, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> >
> >> On 08/24/2015 03:50 PM, Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote:
> >> >On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz> wrote:
> >> >>On 08/24/2015 12:17 PM, Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>I am in the middle of implementing lock on fault this way, but I cannot
> >> >>>>see how we will hanlde mremap of a lock on fault region.  Say we have
> >> >>>>the following:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>      addr = mmap(len, MAP_ANONYMOUS, ...);
> >> >>>>      mlock(addr, len, MLOCK_ONFAULT);
> >> >>>>      ...
> >> >>>>      mremap(addr, len, 2 * len, ...)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>There is no way for mremap to know that the area being remapped was lock
> >> >>>>on fault so it will be locked and prefaulted by remap.  How can we avoid
> >> >>>>this without tracking per vma if it was locked with lock or lock on
> >> >>>>fault?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>remap can count filled ptes and prefault only completely populated areas.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>Does (and should) mremap really prefault non-present pages? Shouldn't it
> >> >>just prepare the page tables and that's it?
> >> >
> >> >As I see mremap prefaults pages when it extends mlocked area.
> >> >
> >> >Also quote from manpage
> >> >: If  the memory segment specified by old_address and old_size is locked
> >> >: (using mlock(2) or similar), then this lock is maintained when the segment is
> >> >: resized and/or relocated.  As a  consequence, the amount of memory locked
> >> >: by the process may change.
> >>
> >> Oh, right... Well that looks like a convincing argument for having a
> >> sticky VM_LOCKONFAULT after all. Having mremap guess by scanning
> >> existing pte's would slow it down, and be unreliable (was the area
> >> completely populated because MLOCK_ONFAULT was not used or because
> >> the process aulted it already? Was it not populated because
> >> MLOCK_ONFAULT was used, or because mmap(MAP_LOCKED) failed to
> >> populate it all?).
> >
> > Given this, I am going to stop working in v8 and leave the vma flag in
> > place.
> >
> >>
> >> The only sane alternative is to populate always for mremap() of
> >> VM_LOCKED areas, and document this loss of MLOCK_ONFAULT information
> >> as a limitation of mlock2(MLOCK_ONFAULT). Which might or might not
> >> be enough for Eric's usecase, but it's somewhat ugly.
> >>
> >
> > I don't think that this is the right solution, I would be really
> > surprised as a user if an area I locked with MLOCK_ONFAULT was then
> > fully locked and prepopulated after mremap().
> 
> If mremap is the only problem then we can add opposite flag for it:
> 
> "MREMAP_NOPOPULATE"
> - do not populate new segment of locked areas
> - do not copy normal areas if possible (anonymous/special must be copied)
> 
> addr = mmap(len, MAP_ANONYMOUS, ...);
> mlock(addr, len, MLOCK_ONFAULT);
> ...
> addr2 = mremap(addr, len, 2 * len, MREMAP_NOPOPULATE);
> ...
> 

But with this, the user must remember what areas are locked with
MLOCK_LOCKONFAULT and which are locked the with prepopulate so the
correct mremap flags can be used.


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  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-24 15:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-09  5:22 [PATCH v7 0/6] Allow user to request memory to be locked on page fault Eric B Munson
2015-08-09  5:22 ` [PATCH v7 1/6] mm: mlock: Refactor mlock, munlock, and munlockall code Eric B Munson
2015-08-12  9:42   ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-09  5:22 ` [PATCH v7 2/6] mm: mlock: Add new mlock system call Eric B Munson
2015-08-12  9:45   ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-09  5:22 ` [PATCH v7 3/6] mm: Introduce VM_LOCKONFAULT Eric B Munson
2015-08-12 11:59   ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-19 21:33     ` Eric B Munson
2015-08-20  7:53       ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-20  7:56       ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-20 17:03         ` Eric B Munson
2015-08-21  7:25           ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-21 18:31             ` Eric B Munson
2015-08-24 10:17               ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2015-08-24 13:30                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-24 13:50                   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2015-08-24 14:27                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-24 15:09                       ` Eric B Munson
2015-08-24 15:46                         ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2015-08-24 15:55                           ` Eric B Munson [this message]
2015-08-24 16:22                             ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2015-08-24 17:00                               ` Eric B Munson
2015-08-24 18:53                                 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2015-08-24 20:26                                   ` Eric B Munson
2015-08-25 13:41               ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-25 13:55                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-25 14:29                   ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-25 13:58                 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2015-08-25 14:29                 ` Eric B Munson
2015-08-25 18:58                   ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-25 19:03                     ` Eric B Munson
2015-08-26  7:20                       ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-26 15:35                         ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-09  5:22 ` [PATCH v7 4/6] mm: mlock: Add mlock flags to enable VM_LOCKONFAULT usage Eric B Munson
2015-08-09  5:22 ` [PATCH v7 5/6] selftests: vm: Add tests for lock on fault Eric B Munson
2015-08-09  5:22 ` [PATCH v7 6/6] mips: Add entry for new mlock2 syscall Eric B Munson

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