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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/10] mm, page_alloc: Delete the zonelist_cache
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 15:17:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150820141720.GE12432@techsingularity.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55D5D68E.6040206@suse.cz>

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 03:30:54PM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> >Note the maximum stall latency which was 6 seconds and becomes 67ms with
> >this patch applied. However, also note that it is not guaranteed this
> >benchmark always hits pathelogical cases and the milage varies. There is
> >a secondary impact with more direct reclaim because zones are now being
> >considered instead of being skipped by zlc.
> >
> >                                  4.1.0       4.1.0
> >                                vanilla  nozlc-v1r4
> >Swap Ins                           838         502
> >Swap Outs                      1149395     2622895
> >DMA32 allocs                  17839113    15863747
> >Normal allocs                129045707   137847920
> >Direct pages scanned           4070089    29046893
> >Kswapd pages scanned          17147837    17140694
> >Kswapd pages reclaimed        17146691    17139601
> >Direct pages reclaimed         1888879     4886630
> >Kswapd efficiency                  99%         99%
> >Kswapd velocity              17523.721   17518.928
> >Direct efficiency                  46%         16%
> >Direct velocity               4159.306   29687.854
> >Percentage direct scans            19%         62%
> >Page writes by reclaim     1149395.000 2622895.000
> >Page writes file                     0           0
> >Page writes anon               1149395     2622895
> 
> Interesting, kswapd has no decrease that would counter the increase in
> direct reclaim. So there's more reclaim overall. Does it mean that stutter
> doesn't like LRU and zlc was disrupting LRU?
> 

The LRU is being heavily disrupted by both reclaim and compaction
activity. The test is not a reliable means of evaluating reclaim decisions
because of the compaction activity. The main purpose of stutter was as a
proxy measure of desktop interactivity during IO.

As the test does THP allocations, it can trigger the case where zlc can
disable a zone for no reason and instead busy loop which is just wrong.

> >The direct page scan and reclaim rates are noticeable. It is possible
> >this will not be a universal win on all workloads but cycling through
> >zonelists waiting for zlc->last_full_zap to expire is not the right
> >decision.
> >
> >Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
> >Acked-by: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
> 
> It doesn't seem that removal of zlc would increase overhead due to
> "expensive operations no longer being avoided". Making some corner-case
> benchmark(s) worse as a side-effect of different LRU approximation shouldn't
> be a show-stopper. Hence
> 
> Acked-by: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
> 

Thanks.

> just git grep found some lines that should be also deleted:
> 
> include/linux/mmzone.h: * If zlcache_ptr is not NULL, then it is just the
> address of zlcache,
> include/linux/mmzone.h: * as explained above.  If zlcache_ptr is NULL, there
> is no zlcache.
> 

Thanks

> And:
> 
> >@@ -3157,7 +2967,7 @@ __alloc_pages_nodemask(gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned int order,
> >  	gfp_t alloc_mask; /* The gfp_t that was actually used for allocation */
> >  	struct alloc_context ac = {
> >  		.high_zoneidx = gfp_zone(gfp_mask),
> >-		.nodemask = nodemask,
> >+		.nodemask = nodemask ? : &cpuset_current_mems_allowed,
> >  		.migratetype = gfpflags_to_migratetype(gfp_mask),
> >  	};
> >
> >@@ -3188,8 +2998,7 @@ __alloc_pages_nodemask(gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned int order,
> >  	ac.zonelist = zonelist;
> >  	/* The preferred zone is used for statistics later */
> >  	preferred_zoneref = first_zones_zonelist(ac.zonelist, ac.high_zoneidx,
> >-				ac.nodemask ? : &cpuset_current_mems_allowed,
> >-				&ac.preferred_zone);
> >+				ac.nodemask, &ac.preferred_zone);
> >  	if (!ac.preferred_zone)
> >  		goto out;
> >  	ac.classzone_idx = zonelist_zone_idx(preferred_zoneref);
> 
> These hunks appear unrelated to zonelist cache? Also they move the
> evaluation of cpuset_current_mems_allowed

They are rebase-related brain damage :(. I'll fix it and retest.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-20 14:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-12 10:45 [PATCH 00/10] Remove zonelist cache and high-order watermark checking v2 Mel Gorman
2015-08-12 10:45 ` [PATCH 01/10] mm, page_alloc: Delete the zonelist_cache Mel Gorman
2015-08-20 13:18   ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-20 13:42     ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-21  9:29       ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-20 13:30   ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-20 14:17     ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2015-08-20 14:45       ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-12 10:45 ` [PATCH 02/10] mm, page_alloc: Remove unnecessary parameter from zone_watermark_ok_safe Mel Gorman
2015-08-20 12:30   ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-12 10:45 ` [PATCH 03/10] mm, page_alloc: Remove unnecessary recalculations for dirty zone balancing Mel Gorman
2015-08-20 12:45   ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-20 13:45     ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-20 14:25       ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-12 10:45 ` [PATCH 04/10] mm, page_alloc: Remove unnecessary taking of a seqlock when cpusets are disabled Mel Gorman
2015-08-13  0:16   ` David Rientjes
2015-08-17 11:58     ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-12 10:45 ` [PATCH 05/10] mm, page_alloc: Use masks and shifts when converting GFP flags to migrate types Mel Gorman
2015-08-12 14:45   ` Christoph Lameter
2015-08-12 10:45 ` [PATCH 06/10] mm: page_alloc: Distinguish between being unable to sleep, unwilling to unwilling and avoiding waking kswapd Mel Gorman
2015-08-12 13:22   ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-19 14:44   ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-20  9:14     ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-21 13:42   ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-21 20:39     ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-12 10:45 ` [PATCH 07/10] mm: page_alloc: Rename __GFP_WAIT to __GFP_RECLAIM Mel Gorman
2015-08-20 12:28   ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-20 12:46     ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-21 14:20   ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-21 20:56     ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-12 10:45 ` [PATCH 08/10] mm, page_alloc: Remove MIGRATE_RESERVE Mel Gorman
2015-08-12 10:45 ` [PATCH 09/10] mm, page_alloc: Reserve pageblocks for high-order atomic allocations on demand Mel Gorman
2015-08-12 10:45 ` [PATCH 10/10] mm, page_alloc: Only enforce watermarks for order-0 allocations Mel Gorman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-07-20  8:00 [RFC PATCH 00/10] Remove zonelist cache and high-order watermark checking Mel Gorman
2015-07-20  8:00 ` [PATCH 01/10] mm, page_alloc: Delete the zonelist_cache Mel Gorman
2015-07-21 23:47   ` David Rientjes
2015-07-23 10:58     ` Mel Gorman

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