From: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
To: mhocko@kernel.org
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org, mhocko@suse.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 3/8] mm: page_alloc: do not lock up GFP_NOFS allocations upon OOM
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 21:28:39 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201508052128.FIJ56269.QHSFOVFLOJOMFt@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1438768284-30927-4-git-send-email-mhocko@kernel.org>
Reduced to only linux-mm.
> From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
>
> GFP_NOFS allocations are not allowed to invoke the OOM killer since
> their reclaim abilities are severely diminished. However, without the
> OOM killer available there is no hope of progress once the reclaimable
> pages have been exhausted.
Excuse me, but I still cannot understand. Why are !__GFP_FS allocations
considered as "their reclaim abilities are severely diminished"?
It seems to me that not only GFP_NOFS allocation requests but also
almost all types of memory allocation requests do not include
__GFP_NO_KSWAPD flag.
Therefore, while a thread which called __alloc_pages_slowpath(GFP_NOFS)
cannot reclaim FS memory, I assume that kswapd kernel threads which are
woken up by the thread via wakeup_kswapd() via wake_all_kswapds() can
reclaim FS memory by calling balance_pgdat(). Is this assumption correct?
If the assumption is correct, when kswapd kernel threads returned from
balance_pgdat() or got stuck inside reclaiming functions (e.g. blocked at
mutex_lock() inside slab's shrinker functions), I think that the thread
which called __alloc_pages_slowpath(GFP_NOFS) has reclaimed FS memory
as if the thread called __alloc_pages_slowpath(GFP_KERNEL), and therefore
the thread qualifies calling out_of_memory() as with __GFP_FS allocations.
>
> Don't risk hanging these allocations. Leave it to the allocation site
> to implement the fallback policy for failing allocations.
Are there memory pages which kswapd kernel threads cannot reclaim
but __alloc_pages_slowpath(GFP_KERNEL) allocations can reclaim
when __alloc_pages_slowpath(GFP_NOFS) allocations are hanging?
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Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-08-05 9:51 [RFC 0/8] Allow GFP_NOFS allocation to fail mhocko
2015-08-05 9:51 ` [RFC 1/8] mm, oom: Give __GFP_NOFAIL allocations access to memory reserves mhocko
2015-08-05 9:51 ` [RFC 2/8] mm: Allow GFP_IOFS for page_cache_read page cache allocation mhocko
2015-08-05 9:51 ` [RFC 3/8] mm: page_alloc: do not lock up GFP_NOFS allocations upon OOM mhocko
2015-08-05 12:28 ` Tetsuo Handa [this message]
2015-08-05 14:02 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-06 11:50 ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-08-12 9:11 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-16 14:04 ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-08-05 9:51 ` [RFC 4/8] jbd, jbd2: Do not fail journal because of frozen_buffer allocation failure mhocko
2015-08-05 11:42 ` Jan Kara
2015-08-05 16:49 ` Greg Thelen
2015-08-12 9:14 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-15 13:54 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-08-18 10:36 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-24 12:06 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-18 10:38 ` [RFC -v2 " Michal Hocko
2015-08-05 9:51 ` [RFC 5/8] ext4: Do not fail journal due to block allocator mhocko
2015-08-05 11:43 ` Jan Kara
2015-08-18 10:39 ` [RFC -v2 " Michal Hocko
2015-08-18 10:55 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-05 9:51 ` [RFC 6/8] ext3: Do not abort journal prematurely mhocko
2015-08-18 10:39 ` [RFC -v2 " Michal Hocko
2015-08-05 9:51 ` [RFC 7/8] btrfs: Prevent from early transaction abort mhocko
2015-08-05 16:31 ` David Sterba
2015-08-18 10:40 ` [RFC -v2 " Michal Hocko
2015-08-18 11:01 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-18 17:11 ` Chris Mason
2015-08-18 17:29 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-19 12:26 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-05 9:51 ` [RFC 8/8] btrfs: use __GFP_NOFAIL in alloc_btrfs_bio mhocko
2015-08-05 16:32 ` David Sterba
2015-08-18 10:41 ` [RFC -v2 " Michal Hocko
2015-08-05 19:58 ` [RFC 0/8] Allow GFP_NOFS allocation to fail Andreas Dilger
2015-08-06 14:34 ` Michal Hocko
2015-09-07 16:51 ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-09-15 13:16 ` Tetsuo Handa
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