From: Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.com>
Cc: Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
Pintu Kumar <pintu.k@samsung.com>,
Xishi Qiu <qiuxishi@huawei.com>, Gioh Kim <gioh.kim@lge.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/10] mm, page_alloc: Only enforce watermarks for order-0 allocations
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 15:08:38 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150731060838.GB15912@js1304-P5Q-DELUXE> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1437379219-9160-11-git-send-email-mgorman@suse.com>
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 09:00:19AM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
>
> The primary purpose of watermarks is to ensure that reclaim can always
> make forward progress in PF_MEMALLOC context (kswapd and direct reclaim).
> These assume that order-0 allocations are all that is necessary for
> forward progress.
>
> High-order watermarks serve a different purpose. Kswapd had no high-order
> awareness before they were introduced (https://lkml.org/lkml/2004/9/5/9).
> This was particularly important when there were high-order atomic requests.
> The watermarks both gave kswapd awareness and made a reserve for those
> atomic requests.
>
> There are two important side-effects of this. The most important is that
> a non-atomic high-order request can fail even though free pages are available
> and the order-0 watermarks are ok. The second is that high-order watermark
> checks are expensive as the free list counts up to the requested order must
> be examined.
>
> With the introduction of MIGRATE_HIGHATOMIC it is no longer necessary to
> have high-order watermarks. Kswapd and compaction still need high-order
> awareness which is handled by checking that at least one suitable high-order
> page is free.
I totally agree removing watermark checking for order from
PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER to MAX_ORDER. It doesn't make sense to
maintain such high-order freepage that MM don't guarantee allocation
success. For example, in my system, when there is 1 order-9 freepage,
allocation request for order-9 fails because watermark check requires
at least 2 order-9 freepages in order to succeed order-9 allocation.
But, I think watermark checking with order up to PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER is
different. If we maintain just 1 high-order freepages, successive
high-order allocation request that should be success always fall into
allocation slow-path and go into the direct reclaim/compaction. It enlarges
many workload's latency. We should prepare at least some number of freepage
to handle successive high-order allocation request gracefully.
So, how about following?
1) kswapd checks watermark as is up to PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER. It
guarantees kswapd prepares some number of high-order freepages so
successive high-order allocation request will be handlded gracefully.
2) In case of !kswapd, just check whether appropriate freepage is
in buddy or not.
Thanks.
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Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-07-20 8:00 [RFC PATCH 00/10] Remove zonelist cache and high-order watermark checking Mel Gorman
2015-07-20 8:00 ` [PATCH 01/10] mm, page_alloc: Delete the zonelist_cache Mel Gorman
2015-07-21 23:47 ` David Rientjes
2015-07-23 10:58 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-20 8:00 ` [PATCH 02/10] mm, page_alloc: Remove unnecessary parameter from zone_watermark_ok_safe Mel Gorman
2015-07-21 23:49 ` David Rientjes
2015-07-28 12:20 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-20 8:00 ` [PATCH 03/10] mm, page_alloc: Remove unnecessary recalculations for dirty zone balancing Mel Gorman
2015-07-22 0:08 ` David Rientjes
2015-07-23 12:28 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-28 12:25 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-20 8:00 ` [PATCH 04/10] mm, page_alloc: Remove unnecessary taking of a seqlock when cpusets are disabled Mel Gorman
2015-07-22 0:11 ` David Rientjes
2015-07-28 12:32 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-20 8:00 ` [PATCH 05/10] mm, page_alloc: Remove unnecessary updating of GFP flags during normal operation Mel Gorman
2015-07-28 13:36 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-28 13:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-28 15:48 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-20 8:00 ` [PATCH 06/10] mm, page_alloc: Use jump label to check if page grouping by mobility is enabled Mel Gorman
2015-07-28 13:42 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-20 8:00 ` [PATCH 07/10] mm, page_alloc: Use masks and shifts when converting GFP flags to migrate types Mel Gorman
2015-07-20 8:00 ` [PATCH 08/10] mm, page_alloc: Remove MIGRATE_RESERVE Mel Gorman
2015-07-29 9:59 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-29 12:25 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-20 8:00 ` [PATCH 09/10] mm, page_alloc: Reserve pageblocks for high-order atomic allocations on demand Mel Gorman
2015-07-29 11:35 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-29 12:53 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-31 8:28 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-31 8:43 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-31 5:54 ` Joonsoo Kim
2015-07-31 7:11 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-31 7:25 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-31 8:22 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-31 8:30 ` Joonsoo Kim
2015-07-31 8:26 ` Joonsoo Kim
2015-07-31 8:41 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-20 8:00 ` [PATCH 10/10] mm, page_alloc: Only enforce watermarks for order-0 allocations Mel Gorman
2015-07-29 12:25 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-29 13:04 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-31 6:08 ` Joonsoo Kim [this message]
2015-07-31 7:19 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-31 8:40 ` Joonsoo Kim
2015-07-31 6:14 ` [RFC PATCH 00/10] Remove zonelist cache and high-order watermark checking Joonsoo Kim
2015-07-31 7:20 ` Mel Gorman
2015-08-12 10:45 [PATCH 00/10] Remove zonelist cache and high-order watermark checking v2 Mel Gorman
2015-08-12 10:45 ` [PATCH 10/10] mm, page_alloc: Only enforce watermarks for order-0 allocations Mel Gorman
2015-09-21 10:52 [PATCH 00/10] Remove zonelist cache and high-order watermark checking v4 Mel Gorman
2015-09-21 12:03 ` [PATCH 10/10] mm, page_alloc: Only enforce watermarks for order-0 allocations Mel Gorman
2015-09-25 19:32 ` Johannes Weiner
2015-09-29 21:05 ` Andrew Morton
2015-09-30 8:46 ` Mel Gorman
2015-09-30 14:17 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-09-30 15:12 ` Mel Gorman
2015-09-30 20:37 ` Andrew Morton
2015-09-30 14:11 ` Vlastimil Babka
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