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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jakob Unterwurzacher <jakobunt@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] oom: Do not invoke oom notifiers on sysrq+f
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 10:55:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150709085505.GB13872@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1507081636180.16585@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

On Wed 08-07-15 16:37:49, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Michal Hocko wrote:
> 
> > From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
> > 
> > A github user rfjakob has reported the following issue via IRC.
> > <rfjakob> Manually triggering the OOM killer does not work anymore in 4.0.5
> > <rfjakob> This is what it looks like: https://gist.github.com/rfjakob/346b7dc611fc3cdf4011
> > <rfjakob> Basically, what happens is that the GPU driver frees some memory, that satisfies the OOM killer
> > <rfjakob> But the memory is allocated immediately again, and in the, no processes are killed no matter how often you trigger the oom killer
> > <rfjakob> "in the end"
> > 
> > Quoting from the github:
> > "
> > [19291.202062] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> > [19291.208335] Purging GPU memory, 74399744 bytes freed, 8728576 bytes still pinned.
> > [19291.390767] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> > [19291.396792] Purging GPU memory, 74452992 bytes freed, 8728576 bytes still pinned.
> > [19291.560349] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> > [19291.566018] Purging GPU memory, 75489280 bytes freed, 8728576 bytes still pinned.
> > [19291.729944] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> > [19291.735686] Purging GPU memory, 74399744 bytes freed, 8728576 bytes still pinned.
> > [19291.918637] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> > [19291.924299] Purging GPU memory, 74403840 bytes freed, 8728576 bytes still pinned.
> > "
> > 
> > The issue is that sysrq+f (force_kill) gets confused by the regular OOM
> > heuristic which tries to prevent from OOM killer if some of the oom
> > notifier can relase a memory. The heuristic doesn't make much sense for
> > the sysrq+f path because this one is used by the administrator to kill
> > a memory hog.
> > 
> > Reported-by: Jakob Unterwurzacher <jakobunt@gmail.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
> 
> Nack, the oom notify list has no place in the oom killer, it should be 
> called in the page allocator before calling out_of_memory().  

I cannot say I would like oom notifiers interface. Quite contrary, it is
just a crude hack. It is living outside of the shrinker interface which is
what the reclaim is using and it acts like the last attempt before OOM
(e.g. i915_gem_shrinker_init registers both "shrinkers"). So I am not
sure it belongs outside of the oom killer proper.

Besides that out_of_memory already contains shortcuts to prevent killing
a task. Why is this any different? I mean why shouldn't callers of
out_of_memory check whether the task is killed or existing before
calling out_of_memory?

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-09  8:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-08 13:04 [PATCH 0/4] oom: sysrq+f fixes + cleanups Michal Hocko
2015-07-08 13:04 ` [PATCH 1/4] oom: Do not panic when OOM killer is sysrq triggered Michal Hocko
2015-07-08 23:36   ` David Rientjes
2015-07-09  8:23     ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-09 21:03       ` David Rientjes
2015-07-10  7:41         ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-08 13:04 ` [PATCH 2/4] oom: Do not invoke oom notifiers on sysrq+f Michal Hocko
2015-07-08 23:37   ` David Rientjes
2015-07-09  8:55     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2015-07-09 21:07       ` David Rientjes
2015-07-10  7:40         ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-14 21:58           ` David Rientjes
2015-07-15  9:42             ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-15 22:21               ` David Rientjes
2015-07-15 22:44               ` [patch -mm] mm, oom: move oom notifiers to page allocator David Rientjes
2015-07-16  7:12                 ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-08 13:04 ` [PATCH 3/4] mm, oom: organize oom context into struct Michal Hocko
2015-07-08 23:38   ` David Rientjes
2015-07-09  8:56     ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-09 21:09       ` David Rientjes
2015-07-08 13:04 ` [PATCH 4/4] oom: split out forced OOM killer Michal Hocko
2015-07-08 23:41   ` David Rientjes
2015-07-09 10:05     ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-09 21:27       ` David Rientjes

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