From: David Hildenbrand <dahi@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com,
yang.shi@windriver.com, bigeasy@linutronix.de,
benh@kernel.crashing.org, paulus@samba.org,
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tglx@linutronix.de, David.Laight@ACULAB.COM, hughd@google.com,
hocko@suse.cz, ralf@linux-mips.org, herbert@gondor.apana.org.au,
linux@arm.linux.org.uk, airlied@linux.ie,
daniel.vetter@intel.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.orgtglx@linutronix.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 01/15] uaccess: count pagefault_disable() levels in pagefault_disabled
Date: Thu, 7 May 2015 12:50:53 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150507125053.5d2e8f0a@thinkpad-w530> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150507102254.GE23123@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
> On Wed, May 06, 2015 at 07:50:25PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > +/*
> > + * Is the pagefault handler disabled? If so, user access methods will not sleep.
> > + */
> > +#define pagefault_disabled() (current->pagefault_disabled != 0)
>
> So -RT has:
>
> static inline bool pagefault_disabled(void)
> {
> return current->pagefault_disabled || in_atomic();
> }
>
> AFAICR we did this to avoid having to do both:
>
> preempt_disable();
> pagefault_disable();
>
> in a fair number of places -- just like this patch-set does, this is
> touching two cachelines where one would have been enough.
>
> Also, removing in_atomic() from fault handlers like you did
> significantly changes semantics for interrupts (soft, hard and NMI).
>
> So while I agree with most of these patches, I'm very hesitant on the
> above little detail.
>
Just to make sure we have a common understanding (as written in my cover
letter):
Your suggestion won't work with !CONFIG_PREEMPT (!CONFIG_PREEMPT_COUNT). If
there is no preempt counter, in_atomic() won't work. So doing a
preempt_disable() instead of a pagefault_disable() is not going to work.
(not sure how -RT handles that - most probably with CONFIG_PREEMPT_COUNT being
enabled, due to atomic debug).
That's why I dropped that check for a reason.
So in my opinion, in_atomic() should never be used in any fault handler - it
has nothing to do with disabled pagefaults. It doesn't give us anything more
besides some false security for atomic environments.
This patchset is about decoupling both concept. (not ending up with to
mechanisms doing almost the same)
That's also what Thomas Gleixner suggested
https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/11/27/820 .
David
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Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-06 17:50 [PATCH RFC 00/15] decouple pagefault_disable() from preempt_disable() David Hildenbrand
2015-05-06 17:50 ` [PATCH RFC 01/15] uaccess: count pagefault_disable() levels in pagefault_disabled David Hildenbrand
2015-05-07 10:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-07 10:50 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2015-05-07 11:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-07 11:23 ` David Hildenbrand
2015-05-07 11:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-07 11:30 ` David Hildenbrand
2015-05-07 11:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-07 11:40 ` David Hildenbrand
2015-05-07 11:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-07 11:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-07 12:14 ` David Hildenbrand
2015-05-07 12:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-07 12:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-07 15:45 ` [PATCH draft] mm: use pagefault_disable() to check for disabled pagefaults in the handler David Hildenbrand
2015-05-07 11:12 ` [PATCH RFC 01/15] uaccess: count pagefault_disable() levels in pagefault_disabled Ingo Molnar
2015-05-06 17:50 ` [PATCH RFC 02/15] mm, uaccess: trigger might_sleep() in might_fault() with disabled pagefaults David Hildenbrand
2015-05-06 17:50 ` [PATCH RFC 03/15] uaccess: clarify that uaccess may only sleep if pagefaults are enabled David Hildenbrand
2015-05-06 17:50 ` [PATCH RFC 04/15] mm: explicitly disable/enable preemption in kmap_atomic_* David Hildenbrand
2015-05-06 17:50 ` [PATCH RFC 05/15] mips: kmap_coherent relies on disabled preemption David Hildenbrand
2015-05-06 17:50 ` [PATCH RFC 06/15] mm: use pagefault_disabled() to check for disabled pagefaults David Hildenbrand
2015-05-06 17:50 ` [PATCH RFC 07/15] drm/i915: " David Hildenbrand
2015-05-06 17:50 ` [PATCH RFC 08/15] futex: UP futex_atomic_op_inuser() relies on disabled preemption David Hildenbrand
2015-05-06 17:50 ` [PATCH RFC 09/15] futex: UP futex_atomic_cmpxchg_inatomic() " David Hildenbrand
2015-05-06 17:50 ` [PATCH RFC 10/15] arm/futex: " David Hildenbrand
2015-05-06 17:50 ` [PATCH RFC 11/15] arm/futex: UP futex_atomic_op_inuser() " David Hildenbrand
2015-05-06 17:50 ` [PATCH RFC 12/15] futex: clarify that preemption doesn't have to be disabled David Hildenbrand
2015-05-06 17:50 ` [PATCH RFC 13/15] powerpc: enable_kernel_altivec() requires disabled preemption David Hildenbrand
2015-05-07 0:21 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-05-06 17:50 ` [PATCH RFC 14/15] mips: properly lock access to the fpu David Hildenbrand
2015-05-06 17:50 ` [PATCH RFC 15/15] uaccess: decouple preemption from the pagefault logic David Hildenbrand
2015-05-06 22:01 ` [PATCH RFC 00/15] decouple pagefault_disable() from preempt_disable() Andrew Morton
2015-05-07 6:23 ` David Hildenbrand
2015-05-07 9:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-07 10:51 ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-05-07 11:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-07 11:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
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