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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
To: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@parallels.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] gfp: add __GFP_NOACCOUNT
Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 14:35:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150506123541.GK14550@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150506122431.GA29387@esperanza>

On Wed 06-05-15 15:24:31, Vladimir Davydov wrote:
> On Wed, May 06, 2015 at 01:59:41PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Tue 05-05-15 12:45:42, Vladimir Davydov wrote:
> > > Not all kmem allocations should be accounted to memcg. The following
> > > patch gives an example when accounting of a certain type of allocations
> > > to memcg can effectively result in a memory leak.
> > 
> > > This patch adds the __GFP_NOACCOUNT flag which if passed to kmalloc
> > > and friends will force the allocation to go through the root
> > > cgroup. It will be used by the next patch.
> > 
> > The name of the flag is way too generic. It is not clear that the
> > accounting is KMEMCG related. __GFP_NO_KMEMCG sounds better?
> > 
> > I was going to suggest doing per-cache rather than gfp flag and that
> > would actually work just fine for the kmemleak as it uses its own cache
> > already. But the ida_simple_get would be trickier because it doesn't use
> > any special cache and more over only one user seem to have a problem so
> > this doesn't sound like a good fit.
> 
> I don't think making this flag per-cache is an option either, but for
> another reason - it would not be possible to merge such a kmem cache
> with caches without this flag set. As a result, total memory pressure
> would increase, even for setups without kmem-active memory cgroups,
> which does not sound acceptable to me.

I am not sure I see the performance implications here because kmem
accounted memcgs would have their copy of the cache anyway, no?
Anyway, I guess it would be good to document these reasons in the
changelog.
 
> > So I do not object to opt-out for kmemcg accounting but I really think
> > the name should be changed.
> 
> I named it __GFP_NOACCOUNT to match with __GFP_NOTRACK, which is a very
> specific flag too (kmemcheck),  nevertheless it has a rather generic
> name.

__GFP_NOTRACK is a bad name IMHO as well. One has to go and check the
comment to see this is kmemleak related.

> Anyways, what else apart from memcg can account kmem so that we have to
> mention KMEMCG in the flag name explicitly?

NOACCOUNT doesn't imply kmem at all so it is not clear who is in charge
of the accounting. I do not insist on __GFP_NO_KMEMCG of course but
it sounds quite specific about its meaning and scope.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-06 12:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-05  9:45 Vladimir Davydov
2015-05-05  9:45 ` [PATCH 2/2] kernfs: do not account ino_ida allocations to memcg Vladimir Davydov
2015-05-05 13:45   ` Tejun Heo
2015-05-05 16:04     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-05-06 11:59 ` [PATCH 1/2] gfp: add __GFP_NOACCOUNT Michal Hocko
2015-05-06 12:24   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-05-06 12:35     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2015-05-06 13:25       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-05-06 13:55         ` Michal Hocko
2015-05-06 14:29           ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-05-06 14:46             ` Michal Hocko
2015-05-06 13:16   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-05-06 13:46     ` Michal Hocko
2015-05-06 15:00       ` Johannes Weiner
2015-05-06 14:58 ` Michal Hocko
2015-05-06 16:35   ` [PATCH v2] " Vladimir Davydov
2015-05-06 17:52   ` [PATCH 1/2] " Johannes Weiner

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