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From: Eric B Munson <emunson@akamai.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Joern Engel <joern@logfs.org>, Jianguo Wu <wujianguo@huawei.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch][resend] MAP_HUGETLB munmap fails with size not 2MB aligned
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 09:51:39 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150327135139.GA10747@akamai.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1503261250430.9410@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

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On Thu, 26 Mar 2015, David Rientjes wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Mar 2015, Davide Libenzi wrote:
> 
> > > Yes, this munmap() behavior of lengths <= hugepage_size - PAGE_SIZE for a 
> > > hugetlb vma is long standing and there may be applications that break as a 
> > > result of changing the behavior: a database that reserves all allocated 
> > > hugetlb memory with mmap() so that it always has exclusive access to those 
> > > hugepages, whether they are faulted or not, and maintains its own hugepage 
> > > pool (which is common), may test the return value of munmap() and depend 
> > > on it returning -EINVAL to determine if it is freeing memory that was 
> > > either dynamically allocated or mapped from the hugetlb reserved pool.
> > 
> > You went a long way to create such a case.
> > But, in your case, that application will erroneously considering hugepage 
> > mmaped memory, as dynamically allocated, since it will always get EINVAL, 
> > unless it passes an aligned size. Aligned size, which a fix like the one 
> > posted in the patch will still leave as success.
> 
> There was a patch proposed last week to add reserved pools to the 
> hugetlbfs mount option specifically for the case where a large database 
> wants sole reserved access to the hugepage pool.  This is why hugetlbfs 
> pages become reserved on mmap().  In that case, the database never wants 
> to do munmap() and instead maintains its own hugepage pool.
> 
> That makes the usual database case, mmap() all necessary hugetlb pages to 
> reserve them, even easier since they have historically had to maintain 
> this pool amongst various processes.
> 
> Is there a process out there that tests for munmap(ptr) == EINVAL and, if 
> true, returns ptr to its hugepage pool?  I can't say for certain that none 
> exist, that's why the potential for breakage exists.

Such an application can use /proc/pid/smaps to determine the page size
of a mapping.  IMO, this is relying on broken behavior but I see where
you are coming from that this behavior has been present for a long time.

As I stated before, I think we should fix this bug and make munmap()
behavior match what is described in the man page.

> 
> > OTOH, an application, which might be more common than the one you posted,
> > which calls munmap() to release a pointer which it validly got from a 
> > previous mmap(), will leak huge pages as all the issued munmaps will fail.
> > 
> 
> That application would have to be ignoring an EINVAL return value.
> 
> > > If we were to go back in time and decide this when the munmap() behavior 
> > > for hugetlb vmas was originally introduced, that would be valid.  The 
> > > problem is that it could lead to userspace breakage and that's a 
> > > non-starter.
> > > 
> > > What we can do is improve the documentation and man-page to clearly 
> > > specify the long-standing behavior so that nobody encounters unexpected 
> > > results in the future.
> > 
> > This way you will leave the mmap API with broken semantics.
> > In any case, I am done arguing.
> > I will leave to Andrew to sort it out, and to Michael Kerrisk to update 
> > the mmap man pages with the new funny behaviour.
> > 
> 
> The behavior is certainly not new, it has always been the case for 
> munmap() on hugetlb vmas.
> 
> In a strict POSIX interpretation, it refers only to pages in the sense of
> what is returned by sysconf(_SC_PAGESIZE).  Such vmas are not backed by 
> any pages of size sysconf(_SC_PAGESIZE), so this behavior is undefined.  
> It would be best to modify the man page to explicitly state this for 
> MAP_HUGETLB.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-03-27 13:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-23  2:26 Davide Libenzi
2015-03-26  0:47 ` Hugh Dickins
2015-03-26  1:06   ` Davide Libenzi
2015-03-26  3:17     ` David Rientjes
2015-03-26 11:56       ` Davide Libenzi
2015-03-26 14:08         ` Eric B Munson
2015-03-30 16:03           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2015-03-30 20:32             ` Hugh Dickins
2015-03-26 19:15         ` David Rientjes
2015-03-26 19:39           ` Davide Libenzi
2015-03-26 20:03             ` David Rientjes
2015-03-27  9:47               ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-03-27 13:51               ` Eric B Munson [this message]
2015-03-27  9:45             ` Vlastimil Babka

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