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From: Eric B Munson <emunson@akamai.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Roland Dreier <roland@kernel.org>,
	Sean Hefty <sean.hefty@intel.com>,
	Hal Rosenstock <hal.rosenstock@gmail.com>,
	Mike Marciniszyn <infinipath@intel.com>
Subject: Re: Resurrecting the VM_PINNED discussion
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 16:01:50 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150303210150.GA6995@akamai.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54F617A2.8040405@suse.cz>

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On Tue, 03 Mar 2015, Vlastimil Babka wrote:

> On 03/03/2015 07:45 PM, Eric B Munson wrote:
> > On Tue, 03 Mar 2015, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> > 
> >> On 03/03/2015 06:41 PM, Eric B Munson wrote:> All,
> >> >
> >> > After LSF/MM last year Peter revived a patch set that would create
> >> > infrastructure for pinning pages as opposed to simply locking them.
> >> > AFAICT, there was no objection to the set, it just needed some help
> >> > from the IB folks.
> >> >
> >> > Am I missing something about why it was never merged?  I ask because
> >> > Akamai has bumped into the disconnect between the mlock manpage,
> >> > Documentation/vm/unevictable-lru.txt, and reality WRT compaction and
> >> > locking.  A group working in userspace read those sources and wrote a
> >> > tool that mmaps many files read only and locked, munmapping them when
> >> > they are no longer needed.  Locking is used because they cannot afford a
> >> > major fault, but they are fine with minor faults.  This tends to
> >> > fragment memory badly so when they started looking into using hugetlbfs
> >> > (or anything requiring order > 0 allocations) they found they were not
> >> > able to allocate the memory.  They were confused based on the referenced
> >> > documentation as to why compaction would continually fail to yield
> >> > appropriately sized contiguous areas when there was more than enough
> >> > free memory.
> >> 
> >> So you are saying that mlocking (VM_LOCKED) prevents migration and thus
> >> compaction to do its job? If that's true, I think it's a bug as it is AFAIK
> >> supposed to work just fine.
> > 
> > Agreed.  But as has been discussed in the threads around the VM_PINNED
> > work, there are people that are relying on the fact that VM_LOCKED
> > promises no minor faults.  Which is why the behavoir has remained.
> 
> At least in the VM_PINNED thread after last lsf/mm, I don't see this mentioned.
> I found no references to mlocking in compaction.c, and in migrate.c there's just
> mlock_migrate_page() with comment:
> 
> /*
>  * mlock_migrate_page - called only from migrate_page_copy() to
>  * migrate the Mlocked page flag; update statistics.
>  */
> 
> It also passes TTU_IGNORE_MLOCK to try_to_unmap(). So what am I missing? Where
> is this restriction?
> 

I spent quite some time looking for it as well, it is in vmscan.c

int __isolate_lru_page(struct page *page, isolate_mode_t mode)
{
...
        /* Compaction should not handle unevictable pages but CMA can do so */
        if (PageUnevictable(page) && !(mode & ISOLATE_UNEVICTABLE))
                return ret;
...



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-03-03 21:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-03 17:41 Eric B Munson
2015-03-03 18:35 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-03-03 18:45   ` Eric B Munson
2015-03-03 19:51     ` Christoph Lameter
2015-03-03 20:20     ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-03-03 20:22       ` Christoph Lameter
2015-03-03 21:01       ` Eric B Munson [this message]
2015-03-03 21:52         ` Eric B Munson
2015-03-03 22:05           ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-03-04 14:45             ` Eric B Munson
2015-03-03 19:13   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-03-05 20:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-05 21:09   ` Christoph Lameter
2015-03-05 21:13     ` Peter Zijlstra

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