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From: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Ebru Akagunduz <ebru.akagunduz@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, kirill@shutemov.name, mhocko@suse.cz,
	mgorman@suse.de, rientjes@google.com, sasha.levin@oracle.com,
	hughd@google.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org, vbabka@suse.cz,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, riel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm: incorporate zero pages into transparent huge pages
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 19:02:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150220180218.GA4285@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150218153119.0bcd0bf8b4e7d30d99f00a3b@linux-foundation.org>

On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 03:31:19PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 23:03:55 +0200 Ebru Akagunduz <ebru.akagunduz@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > This patch improves THP collapse rates, by allowing zero pages.
> > 
> > Currently THP can collapse 4kB pages into a THP when there
> > are up to khugepaged_max_ptes_none pte_none ptes in a 2MB
> > range.  This patch counts pte none and mapped zero pages
> > with the same variable.
> 
> So if I'm understanding this correctly, with the default value of
> khugepaged_max_ptes_none (HPAGE_PMD_NR-1), if an application creates a
> 2MB area which contains 511 mappings of the zero page and one real
> page, the kernel will proceed to turn that area into a real, physical
> huge page.  So it consumes 2MB of memory which would not have
> previously been allocated?

Correct.

> 
> If so, this might be rather undesirable behaviour in some situations
> (and ditto the current behaviour for pte_none ptes)?
> 
> This can be tuned by adjusting khugepaged_max_ptes_none, but not many
> people are likely to do that because we didn't document the damn thing.

khugepaged checks !hugepage_vma_check, so those apps that don't want
it can opt out with MADV_NOHUGEPAGE. The sysctl allows to tune for the
default behavior.

>  At all.  Can we please rectify this, and update it for the is_zero_pfn
> feature?  The documentation should include an explanation telling
> people how to decide what setting to use, how to observe its effects,
> etc.

Agreed, documentation for the sysfs control would be good to have
indeed.

In the meantime I've got a more urgent issue, for which the fix is
appended below.

Thanks,
Andrea

==

      parent reply	other threads:[~2015-02-20 18:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-11 21:03 Ebru Akagunduz
2015-02-11 22:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2015-02-11 22:21   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-02-11 22:33     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2015-02-16 11:50 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-02-18 23:31 ` Andrew Morton
2015-02-19  0:08   ` Rik van Riel
2015-02-19  8:25     ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-02-23 19:16     ` Andrew Morton
2015-02-23 19:43       ` Rik van Riel
2015-02-23 21:45         ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-02-20 18:02   ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]

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