From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ig0-f174.google.com (mail-ig0-f174.google.com [209.85.213.174]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A596B0038 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 20:25:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-ig0-f174.google.com with SMTP id hn15so5099413igb.13 for ; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 17:25:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.linuxfoundation.org (mail.linuxfoundation.org. [140.211.169.12]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 192si139308ioz.62.2015.01.06.17.25.20 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 06 Jan 2015 17:25:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 17:25:18 -0800 From: Andrew Morton Subject: Re: [RFC] mm:change meminfo cached calculation Message-Id: <20150106172518.8f84bffdfa0d35336b233d07@linux-foundation.org> In-Reply-To: References: <35FD53F367049845BC99AC72306C23D103E688B313EE@CNBJMBX05.corpusers.net> <35FD53F367049845BC99AC72306C23D103E688B313F2@CNBJMBX05.corpusers.net> <20141205143134.37139da2208c654a0d3cd942@linux-foundation.org> <35FD53F367049845BC99AC72306C23D103E688B313F4@CNBJMBX05.corpusers.net> <20141208114601.GA28846@node.dhcp.inet.fi> <35FD53F367049845BC99AC72306C23D103E688B313FB@CNBJMBX05.corpusers.net> <35FD53F367049845BC99AC72306C23D103E688B31408@CNBJMBX05.corpusers.net> <35FD53F367049845BC99AC72306C23D103EDAF89E14C@CNBJMBX05.corpusers.net> <35FD53F367049845BC99AC72306C23D103EDAF89E160@CNBJMBX05.corpusers.net> <20150106164340.55e83f742d6f57c19e6500ff@linux-foundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org List-ID: To: Hugh Dickins Cc: "Wang, Yalin" , "minchan@kernel.org" , Konstantin Khlebnikov , "Kirill A. Shutemov" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-mm@kvack.org" , "linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" , "n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com" , "pintu.k@samsung.com" On Tue, 6 Jan 2015 17:04:33 -0800 (PST) Hugh Dickins wrote: > On Tue, 6 Jan 2015, Andrew Morton wrote: > > On Fri, 26 Dec 2014 19:56:49 +0800 "Wang, Yalin" wrote: > > > > > This patch subtract sharedram from cached, > > > sharedram can only be swap into swap partitions, > > > they should be treated as swap pages, not as cached pages. > > > > > > ... > > > > > > --- a/fs/proc/meminfo.c > > > +++ b/fs/proc/meminfo.c > > > @@ -45,7 +45,7 @@ static int meminfo_proc_show(struct seq_file *m, void *v) > > > committed = percpu_counter_read_positive(&vm_committed_as); > > > > > > cached = global_page_state(NR_FILE_PAGES) - > > > - total_swapcache_pages() - i.bufferram; > > > + total_swapcache_pages() - i.bufferram - i.sharedram; > > > if (cached < 0) > > > cached = 0; > > > > Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt says > > > > : Cached: in-memory cache for files read from the disk (the > > : pagecache). Doesn't include SwapCached > > > > So yes, I guess it should not include shmem. > > > > And why not do this as well? > > > > > > --- a/Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt~mm-change-meminfo-cached-calculation-fix > > +++ a/Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt > > @@ -811,7 +811,7 @@ MemAvailable: An estimate of how much me > > Buffers: Relatively temporary storage for raw disk blocks > > shouldn't get tremendously large (20MB or so) > > Cached: in-memory cache for files read from the disk (the > > - pagecache). Doesn't include SwapCached > > + pagecache). Doesn't include SwapCached or Shmem. > > SwapCached: Memory that once was swapped out, is swapped back in but > > still also is in the swapfile (if memory is needed it > > doesn't need to be swapped out AGAIN because it is already > > Whoa. Changes of this kind would have made good sense about 14 years ago. > And there's plenty more which would benefit from having anon/shmem/file > properly distinguished. But how can we make such a change now, > breaking everything that has made its own sense of these counts? That's what I was wondering, but I was having some trouble picking a situation where it mattered much. What's the problematic scenario here? Userspace that is taking Cached, saying "that was silly" and subtracting Shmem from it by hand? I suppose that as nobody knows we should err on the side of caution and leave this alone. But the situation is pretty sad - it would be nice to make the code agree with the documentation at least. -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: email@kvack.org