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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave@sr71.net>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@parallels.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: regression caused by cgroups optimization in 3.17-rc2
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 21:33:17 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140903013317.GA26086@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFw6ZkGNVX-CwyG0ybQAPjYAscdM59k_tOLtg4rr-fS-jg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 05:20:55PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> wrote:
> >
> > That looks like a partial profile, where did the page allocator, page
> > zeroing etc. go?  Because the distribution among these listed symbols
> > doesn't seem all that crazy:
> 
> Please argue this *after* the commit has been reverted. You guys can
> try to make the memcontrol batching actually work and scale later.
> It's not appropriate to argue against major regressions when reported
> and bisected by users.

I'll send a clean revert later.

> Showing the spinlock at the top of the profile is very much crazy
> (apparently taking 68% of all cpu time), when it's all useless
> make-believe work. I don't understand why you wouldn't call that
> crazy.

If you limit perf to a subset of symbols, it will show a relative
distribution between them, i.e: perf top --symbols kfree,memset during
some disk access:

   PerfTop:    1292 irqs/sec  kernel:84.4%  exact:  0.0% [4000Hz cycles],  (all, 4 CPUs)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    56.23%  [kernel]      [k] kfree 
    41.86%  [kernel]      [k] memset
     1.91%  libc-2.19.so  [.] memset

kfree isn't eating 56% of "all cpu time" here, and it wasn't clear to
me whether Dave filtered symbols from only memcontrol.o, memory.o, and
mmap.o in a similar way.  I'm not arguing against the regression, I'm
just trying to make sense of the numbers from the *patched* kernel.

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-03  1:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-02 19:05 Dave Hansen
2014-09-02 20:18 ` Dave Hansen
2014-09-02 20:57   ` Dave Hansen
2014-09-04 14:27     ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-04 20:27       ` Dave Hansen
2014-09-04 22:53         ` Dave Hansen
2014-09-05  9:28           ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-05  9:25         ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-05 14:47           ` Johannes Weiner
2014-09-05 15:39             ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-10 16:29           ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-10 16:57             ` Dave Hansen
2014-09-10 17:05               ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-05 12:35         ` Johannes Weiner
2014-09-08 15:47           ` Dave Hansen
2014-09-09 14:50             ` Johannes Weiner
2014-09-09 18:23               ` Dave Hansen
2014-09-02 22:18 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-09-02 22:36   ` Dave Hansen
2014-09-03  0:10     ` Johannes Weiner
2014-09-03  0:20       ` Linus Torvalds
2014-09-03  1:33         ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2014-09-03  3:15           ` Dave Hansen
2014-09-03  0:30       ` Dave Hansen
2014-09-04 15:08         ` Johannes Weiner
2014-09-04 20:50           ` Dave Hansen
2014-09-05  8:04           ` Michal Hocko

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