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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>
Cc: Konstantin Khlebnikov <koct9i@gmail.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Roland Dreier <roland@kernel.org>,
	Sean Hefty <sean.hefty@intel.com>,
	Hal Rosenstock <hal.rosenstock@gmail.com>,
	Mike Marciniszyn <infinipath@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/5] VM_PINNED
Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 16:46:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140527144655.GC19143@laptop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1405270929550.13999@gentwo.org>

On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 09:34:22AM -0500, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Tue, 27 May 2014, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> 
> > The things I care about for VM_PINNED are long term pins, like the IB
> > stuff, which sets up its RDMA buffers at the start of a program and
> > basically leaves them in place for the entire duration of said program.
> 
> Ok that also means the pages are not to be allocated from ZONE_MOVABLE?

Well, like with IB, they start out as normal userspace pages, and will
be from ZONE_MOVABLE.

> I expected the use of a page flag. With a vma flag we may have a situation
> that mapping a page into a vma changes it to pinned and terminating a
> process may unpin a page. That means the zone that the page should be
> allocated from changes.

So the only way to 'map' something into pinned is what perf does (have
the f_ops->mmap call set VM_PINNED). But that way already ensures we
have full control over the allocation since its a custom file.

And in fact the perf buffer is allocated with GFP_KERNEL and is thus
already not from MOVABLE.

Any other use, like (again) the IB stuff, will go through
get_user_pages() which will ensure all the pages are mapped and present.

So I don't think this is a real problem and certainly not one that
requires a page flag.

> Pinned pages in ZONE_MOVABLE are not a good idea. But since "kernelcore"
> is rarely used maybe that is not an issue?

Well, the idea was to migrate pages to a more suitable location on
mm_mpin(). We could choose to move them out again on mm_munpin() or not.

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-27 14:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-26 14:56 Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-26 14:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] mm: Introduce VM_PINNED and interfaces Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-29  1:48   ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-29  8:01     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-26 14:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/5] mm,perf: Make use of VM_PINNED Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-26 14:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/5] mm,ib,umem: Use VM_PINNED Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-26 14:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/5] mm,ib,ipath: " Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-26 14:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/5] mm,ib,qib: " Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-26 20:19 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/5] VM_PINNED Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-05-26 20:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-26 20:49     ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-05-27 10:29       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-27 10:54         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-27 11:11           ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-05-27 11:50             ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-27 13:09               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-27 13:05             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-27 14:34         ` Christoph Lameter
2014-05-27 14:46           ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2014-05-27 15:14             ` Christoph Lameter
2014-05-27 15:31               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-27 16:31                 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-05-27 16:43                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-27 16:56                     ` Christoph Lameter
2014-05-27 17:29                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-27 20:00                         ` Christoph Lameter
2014-05-28  6:14                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-01 10:16     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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