From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Alex Shi <alex.shi@linaro.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Fengguang Wu <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
H Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>, Linux-X86 <x86@kernel.org>,
Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Fix ebizzy performance regression due to X86 TLB range flush v2
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 17:54:41 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131217175441.GI11295@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131217144214.GA12370@gmail.com>
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 03:42:14PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de> wrote:
>
> > [...]
> >
> > At that point it'll be time to look at profiles and see where we are
> > actually spending time because the possibilities of finding things
> > to fix through bisection will be exhausted.
>
> Yeah.
>
> One (heavy handed but effective) trick that can be used in such a
> situation is to just revert everything that is causing problems, and
> continue reverting until we get back to a v3.4 baseline performance.
>
Very tempted but the potential timeframe here is very large and the number
of patches could be considerable. Some patches cause a lot of noise. For
example, one patch enabled ACPI cpufreq driver loading which looks like
a regression during that window but it's a side-effect that gets fixed
later. It'll take time to identify all the patches that potentially cause
problems.
> Once such a 'clean' tree (or queue of patches) is achived, that can be
> used as a measurement base and the individual features can be
> re-applied again, one by one, with measurement and analysis becoming a
> lot easier.
>
Ordinarily I would agree with you but would prefer a shorter window for
that type of strategy.
> > > Also it appears the Ebizzy numbers ought to be stable enough now
> > > to make the range-TLB-flush measurements more precise?
> >
> > Right now, the tlbflush microbenchmark figures look awful on the
> > 8-core machine when the tlbflush shift patch and the schedule domain
> > fix are both applied.
>
> I think that furthr strengthens the case for the 'clean base' approach
> I outlined above - but it's your call obviously ...
>
I'll keep it as plan b if it cannot be fixed with a direct approach.
> Thanks again for going through all this. Tracking multi-commit
> performance regressions across 1.5 years worth of commits is generally
> very hard. Does your testing effort comes from enterprise Linux QA
> testing, or did you ran into this problem accidentally?
>
It does not come from enterprise Linux QA testing but it's motivated by
it. I want to catch as many "obvious" performance bugs before they do as
it saves time and stress in the long run. To assist that, I setup continual
performance regression testing and ebizzy was included in the first report
I opened. It makes me worry what the rest of the reports contain.
--
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-12-17 17:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-12-13 20:01 Mel Gorman
2013-12-13 20:01 ` [PATCH 1/4] x86: mm: Clean up inconsistencies when flushing TLB ranges Mel Gorman
2013-12-13 20:01 ` [PATCH 2/4] x86: mm: Account for TLB flushes only when debugging Mel Gorman
2013-12-13 20:01 ` [PATCH 3/4] x86: mm: Change tlb_flushall_shift for IvyBridge Mel Gorman
2013-12-13 20:01 ` [PATCH 4/4] x86: mm: Eliminate redundant page table walk during TLB range flushing Mel Gorman
2013-12-13 21:16 ` [PATCH 0/4] Fix ebizzy performance regression due to X86 TLB range flush v2 Linus Torvalds
2013-12-13 22:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-16 10:39 ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-16 17:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-17 9:55 ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-15 15:55 ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-15 16:17 ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-15 18:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-16 11:16 ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-16 10:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-16 12:59 ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-16 13:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-17 9:21 ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-17 9:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-17 11:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-17 14:32 ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-17 14:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-17 17:54 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2013-12-18 10:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-19 14:24 ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-19 16:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-20 11:13 ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-20 11:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-20 12:00 ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-20 12:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-20 13:55 ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-18 7:28 ` Fengguang Wu
2013-12-19 14:34 ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-20 15:51 ` Fengguang Wu
2013-12-20 16:44 ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-21 15:49 ` Fengguang Wu
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