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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Dave Hansen <dave@sr71.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Pravin B Shelar <pshelar@nicira.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/7] re-shrink 'struct page' when SLUB is on.
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 16:01:28 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131216160128.aa1f1eb8039f5eee578cf560@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131213235903.8236C539@viggo.jf.intel.com>

On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 15:59:03 -0800 Dave Hansen <dave@sr71.net> wrote:

> SLUB depends on a 16-byte cmpxchg for an optimization.  For the
> purposes of this series, I'm assuming that it is a very important
> optimization that we desperately need to keep around.

What if we don't do that.

> In order to get guaranteed 16-byte alignment (required by the
> hardware on x86), 'struct page' is padded out from 56 to 64
> bytes.
> 
> Those 8-bytes matter.  We've gone to great lengths to keep
> 'struct page' small in the past.  It's a shame that we bloat it
> now just for alignment reasons when we have extra space.  Plus,
> bloating such a commonly-touched structure *HAS* to have cache
> footprint implications.
> 
> These patches attempt _internal_ alignment instead of external
> alignment for slub.
> 
> I also got a bug report from some folks running a large database
> benchmark.  Their old kernel uses slab and their new one uses
> slub.  They were swapping and couldn't figure out why.  It turned
> out to be the 2GB of RAM that the slub padding wastes on their
> system.
> 
> On my box, that 2GB cost about $200 to populate back when we
> bought it.  I want my $200 back.
> 
> This set takes me from 16909584K of reserved memory at boot
> down to 14814472K, so almost *exactly* 2GB of savings!  It also
> helps performance, presumably because it touches 14% fewer
> struct page cachelines.  A 30GB dd to a ramfs file:
> 
>         dd if=/dev/zero of=bigfile bs=$((1<<30)) count=30
> 
> is sped up by about 4.4% in my testing.

This is a gruesome and horrible tale of inefficiency and regression.

>From 5-10 minutes of gitting I couldn't see any performance testing
results for slub's cmpxchg_double stuff.  I am thinking we should just
tip it all overboard unless someone can demonstrate sufficiently
serious losses from so doing.

--- a/arch/x86/Kconfig~a
+++ a/arch/x86/Kconfig
@@ -78,7 +78,6 @@ config X86
 	select ANON_INODES
 	select HAVE_ALIGNED_STRUCT_PAGE if SLUB
 	select HAVE_CMPXCHG_LOCAL
-	select HAVE_CMPXCHG_DOUBLE
 	select HAVE_ARCH_KMEMCHECK
 	select HAVE_USER_RETURN_NOTIFIER
 	select ARCH_BINFMT_ELF_RANDOMIZE_PIE
_

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-12-17  0:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-13 23:59 Dave Hansen
2013-12-13 23:59 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/7] mm: print more details for bad_page() Dave Hansen
2013-12-16 16:52   ` Christoph Lameter
2013-12-16 17:20     ` Andi Kleen
2013-12-13 23:59 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/7] mm: page->pfmemalloc only used by slab/skb Dave Hansen
2013-12-13 23:59 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/7] mm: slabs: reset page at free Dave Hansen
2013-12-13 23:59 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/7] mm: rearrange struct page Dave Hansen
2013-12-13 23:59 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/7] mm: slub: rearrange 'struct page' fields Dave Hansen
2013-12-13 23:59 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/7] mm: slub: remove 'struct page' alignment restrictions Dave Hansen
2013-12-14  3:13   ` Andi Kleen
2013-12-13 23:59 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/7] mm: slub: cleanups after code churn Dave Hansen
2013-12-17  0:01 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2013-12-17  0:45   ` [RFC][PATCH 0/7] re-shrink 'struct page' when SLUB is on Dave Hansen
2013-12-17 15:17     ` Christoph Lameter
2013-12-19  0:24       ` Dave Hansen
2013-12-19  0:41         ` Andrew Morton
2013-12-19  0:48           ` Dave Hansen
2013-12-19 15:21             ` Christoph Lameter
2013-12-19 19:14           ` Dave Hansen
2013-12-18  8:51     ` Pekka Enberg

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